As a converted Daniel Carr fan....

This one of his fantasy "trade dollars" was just announced. Only 100 to be minted, so I jumped on it--seller's pictures, and mine to follow when it arrives:

 

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Uh-oh -- wasn't issuing coins denominated in dollars what sunk von Nothaus?

I understand Carr's arguments for producing overstruck fantasy coins in standard denominations, and I don't think there's any problem with his Ameros, but this just seems like it's begging for trouble. What am I missing? Does the "TRADE DOLLARS" denomination somehow cover him?

There's an obvious difference in intent between "issuing 100 items to collectors" and "producing hard money for people to use instead of greenbacks", but I don't know how or whether that difference is codified into law.

 

What's the difference between his trade dollars and his ameros? Look almost the same to me....

 

This is struck in Silver. The Ameros are Copper.

 

I have a silver Amero from an earlier release... I guess I was talking more the design.

 

I think DC watched Lord of the Rings one too many times -- his rendition of Liberty kneeling looks like an Elf. I like the eagle atop the fasces on the reverse, but the obverse is not an attractive depiction of Liberty (in my humble opinion). But, whatever floats your boat.

 

Exactly. At least I can be pretty confident that this "trade dollar" was not minted in China.

 

It's cool to see a more modern image of Liberty.
I think she looks pretty hot.

 

That's suppose to be Liberty? You're right, it looks like something out of LOTR. I wonder if we'll get images from Game of Thrones next

 

She looks better than that man on the Morgan Silver Dollar....






JK,JK, JK...

 

I wonder if "looks pretty hot" makes it qualify as "coin porn"?

 

She's a 'babe' in my estimation.

 

I was thinking the same thing, but the applicable laws say "intended for use as current money" and "with the intent to defraud". Admittedly over zealous prosecutors and judges can twist language to incredible extremes, but one thing D.C. may have going for him is the very low mintages. That Trade Dollar is limited to 100 pieces, which is low enough that I think most juries would laugh at any attempt to portray that as anything but what it is.

 

Couldn't resist went for both and

 

Strange mix in my opinion: On one hand the holder of the sword and the shield looks a little cartoonish to me; on the other hand the elements used for the pieces remind me of late 19th century style allegories. Carr can do, and has done, better designs (yes, YMMV ).

The mere use of the dollar name or symbol is not a problem, I think - neither "$" nor "(Trade) Dollar" is a US government monopoly. The country name ... hmm, I am not a legal expert. But I assume he is on the safe side with these.

Christian

 

That is probably the funniest and also most accurate statement I have ever heard in my years of coin collecting.

 

I think Daniel should be careful with the second, (gold colored), one. To me, that would cross the line. Having the "United States of America", date, Liberty, and a dollar sign all on one coin I believe could be construed as counterfeiting. Its close enough that I believe it is too dangerous for him to be taking that risk. The first one, without a country listed, is fine IMHO. I know he has been a member here, so I am writing this as a general warning, not trying to criticize behind his back. I think those four items, country, LIberty, date and dollar denomination, is what got Von Nothaus.

I don't mind the design, but like the reverse more. I can see where he was going with the art deco on the obverse, but it just doesn't resonate like the SL quarter.

 

I like the reverse better too.

 

I don't know Christian........she looks a little like 'Wonder Women' to me. That's why I think she's a babe.........