Zinc pennies before 1982?

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  1. bugo

    bugo Well-Known Member

    I've found pennies that appeared to be zinc but when I flipped them over they were 1981 or older. All of them I've found have been late '70s or early '80s. I've never seen a penny from before 1976 or so that looks like these did. Is it possible that a few zinc pennies were let into circulation to test the composition before switching over? Or is it possible that some test coins were accidentally leaked into circulation?
     
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  3. NOS

    NOS Former Coin Hoarder

    You probably found some cents that were plated in zinc or some other similar element. It was popular to use cents in school science experiments back then due to the high copper content of the coins.
     
  4. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Unlikely.......
     
  5. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Since the zinc cent outer layer is 100 per cent copper rather than 95 % solid, a spectroscope could distinguish without harming the coin, but I doubt it also.
     
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  6. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    VERY unlikely but if you still think you got something, just weigh them on a gram scale. If its around 2.6 grams, its zinc. If its around 3.1 grams, its copper. Allow .1 or .2 grams as a tolerance between metal loss and accuracy of the scale.
     
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  7. 40_mila_kokkina

    40_mila_kokkina Active Member

    That's exactly what to do.
     
  8. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    And be VERY careful.
    Cents having been dipped in mercury are not unusual.
    When the mercury gets "dirty" it can resemble zinc.

    And mercury is very toxic and is easily absorbed through the skin.
     
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  9. 40_mila_kokkina

    40_mila_kokkina Active Member

    Good to know. Thank you for that information since I deal with a lot of copper cents.
     
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    You hear that a lot, but I don't think I have seen a real mercury coated coin in the last 40 years. LOTS of zinc, nickel, chrome plated coins, but no Mercury coated.

    And while mercury can be very toxic, it doesn't absorb through the skin easily. The real danger is if it is vaporized and you breathe the fumes, or organo-mercuric compounds which don't really form that readily. I would recommend not eating it though.
     
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  11. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    when I was a kid we played with mercury didn't have seat belts no helmets when riding a bike could walk anywhere on and on those were the days
     
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  12. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Hammer at the Ready Moderator

    Well, that explains a lot.... ;)


    /I did all that stuff too, plus we even played with toy guns (horrors!)
     
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  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    It's a miracle we all survived.......
     
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  14. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    We played with "real" guns - bb guns and pellet guns. The air powered pellet guns hurt the most ;) We never managed to shoot our eyes out fortunately.
     
  15. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Now if we held cellphones next to our head for almost our whole adolescence , think of how smart we would all be :)
     
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  16. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I played with mercury a few times as a kid. Really weird stuff. We did a few coins. Sure made them shine. I always thought the mercury would just wear off the coin. What makes it stick to the coin so well?
     
  17. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Actually, today's youth lack when compared to our more barbarous upbringing. Goober protections and laws coddle the little guys. Bike helmets? Concussion issues with football? Who the devil knew? We all knew back then but we didn't make a big deal about it or a class action law suit..
     
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  18. 40_mila_kokkina

    40_mila_kokkina Active Member

    I miss those days when being free was an American value, now if we want any privacy or free speech we're called "terrorists". My has America lost its way.
     
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  19. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Mercury, being a liquid metal acts like many liquids and starts to dissolve solids. In this case it actually starts "melting" and alloying with the coinage metal forming an amalgam with the surface metal. And it will stay there unless enough heat is applied to vaporize the mercury.
     
  20. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Thanks Conder
     
  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    That was why mercury was used in gold mining. For placer mining mercury would be put in the baffles of the sluice boxes. Its weight would keep it in place as the water flowed over it but as the gold dust and small flakes came into contact with it they would be attached and dissolved into the amalgam. With hard rock mining the rock would be crushed to a powder and mixed with the mercury. The mercury wouldn't attach to the rock but it would pickup any powdered gold released. (For even more complete gold recover the powder would be boiled in a sodium cyanide solution which leached the rest of the gold out of the rock.) When the amalgam has absorbed all the gold it can it would be taken away and heated to drive off the mercury leaving the gold behind. In large operations the mercury vapor would be condensed to recover the mercury for reuse. The small placer operations often just heated the amalgam in an open container and let the mercury escape (and were often poisoned by the mercury fumes)
     
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