1876 CC 20 cent peice value

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  1. jerry45

    jerry45 Member

    Can anybody give me an idea how much this 1876 CC 20 cent peice is worth? IMG_20140724_232937893.jpg IMG_20140724_233030766.jpg
     
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  3. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    About $1 because I do believe it's 100% fake.
    Sorry for the bad news and I hope you didn't pay anything for it, but that is a very, very rare date and looks extremely suspicious. :(
     
  4. jerry45

    jerry45 Member

    I compared the CC to the books pic and it matches up "very close".
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    very close ain't good enough

    perhaps some clearer pictures for the experts here
     
  6. 40_mila_kokkina

    40_mila_kokkina Active Member

    They didn't make any 1876-CC 20 Cent pieces so of course it's fake!

    I once owned the worst PCGS graded example of the 1875-CC 20 Cent piece in Po01 condition. Someone offered me 140% of the price I paid, took the offer and sold it. It was a Population 1 coin. It looked so terrible, worn, scratched and stained, even I wanted to unload it. The "CC" on the coin was questionable to me no matter how long I eyeballed it though my magnifier.
     
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  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    FYI:
    It is the shape & position of the CC that bothers me most
     
  8. benveniste

    benveniste Type Type

    Like the other poster, I have my doubts about the coin, but if it's real, I'd expect it to fetch in the high-5 or possibly low-6 figures.

    There's only so much one can do from a photo. Have an expert look at it "in person" or pay for certification.
     
  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    Yes they did.

    Total mintage was 10,000

    But most were melted at the mint,

    current values?
    AU = $175000
    Source: 2015 Red Book
     
  10. 40_mila_kokkina

    40_mila_kokkina Active Member

    You're right! It was the "S" mintmark I confused it with. Oh well, not getting enough sleep.
     
  11. jerry45

    jerry45 Member

    I read an authentic one weighs 5 grams i just weighed this one and it is 5 grams so im gonna send it to be graded and never know it just migh be real ill keep ya posted!
     
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  12. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    With all due respect, it's not real, period. Beyond the mintmark(s) placement as mentioned earlier, the date placement, while close, is incorrect, and since there was only one obv die used, we can view this as the second strike. Now, the obverse die also displayed a strongly doubled "LIBERTY", and while this area is not clear in your small photos, I can, with a more than reasonable level of confidence, say that it is clear enough to comfortably state that this is the third strike, and we all know what that means....

    It would have been a fantastic find, but please save yourself the expense and hassle of submitting only to be disappointed. If you want to post better photos, we can better tear things down, but this is up to you.
     
  13. 40_mila_kokkina

    40_mila_kokkina Active Member

    Hope it's at least genuine.
     
  14. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    While you've surely good intentions, please don't do anything to encourage him into thinking there is even a remote chance of it being genuine; it's not.
     
  15. 40_mila_kokkina

    40_mila_kokkina Active Member

    I'm sure you're right based on the poor strike of this specimen. The individual might do better bringing it to a trusted coin auction house for an opinion as it would probably be free to look over.
     
  16. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I said nothing about strike, which at most could be considered an afterthought or possible fourth strike against it, but based my post and conclusion on visible and unarguable facts.

    In some or even most cases I would probably agree with you, especially when a call one way or the other is questionable, or there is still a remote chance of a coin being genuine, but this is not one of them. This gentleman has been provided with more than enough information to easily and positively identify this example as an absolute counterfeit, so there is no reason for him to waste anymore of his or anyone else's time. Suggesting otherwise is doing both he, and this board in general, a disservice and one almost as bad as lauding questionable grading services in the hopes of personal gain.
     
  17. Travlntiques

    Travlntiques Well-Known Member

    T'is true. At this point my recommendation would be to destroy or otherwise mark the coin, so that others won't be confused....... Or keep it as an educational tool.
     
  18. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Gotta agree, that sucker is a fake.
     
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  19. 40_mila_kokkina

    40_mila_kokkina Active Member

    What does questionable grading services have to do with this? SEGS is not a questionable grading service if that's what you're referring to. That's the only one I really recommend to anyone to use, the rest not really.
     
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    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

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  21. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I know I'm a little late...but I have to agree that this coin is a clear fake.
     
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