Dime on wrong planchet?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Serich1980, Jul 19, 2014.

  1. Briboy07

    Briboy07 Well-Known Member

    Here is a thought for the others and a question by me (trying to learn to). if it were a dime struck on the wrong planchet and it goes through the same process for a dime, wouldn't still get the reeding? If it were a dryer coin wouldn't there still be still some sort of the reeding visble or least a small amount enough to say it was reeded at one time? Sorry two question LOL :)
     
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  3. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Hammer at the Ready Moderator

    The thing that sticks out to me about this coin is the rim. I'm curious what the edges look like, are they reeded? It looks like it has rounded edges, but the pictures aren't that clear to me, and hard to say from the vantage point of the photos too.
     
  4. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Like someone else already mentioned in this thread this coin was mostlikely a encased coin from a piece of jewelry. It definitely is not a mint error of any kind. If it was the design from the die would extend all the way to the edge of the coin.
     
  5. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Being beaten in a dryer widens the rim and moves it in toward the center of the coin. That would explain the "rim" being where it is. But he rim on this coin is not wider. Something has ground down that rim to it is the normal thickness or less and that would probably account for the loss in weight.

    and to answer this question
    No the reeding is created during the striking of the dime when the metal of the planchet is forced against the collar. If you are striking on a severely undersized planchet it doesn't expand enough to make contact with the collar and so does not acquire the reeding. (If it DID expand enough to get the reeding it would be the same diameter as a regular dime.)
     
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  6. Briboy07

    Briboy07 Well-Known Member

    Awesome!!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!
     
  7. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I agree with you on this one Rascal. That coin was cut down which accounts for the weight loss.

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    IMO, its not an off metal strike nor is it struck on a foreign planchet.

    It's just been messed with and all the thinking about it isn't going to change that fact.

    Send it to Fred Weinberg or the folks over at CONECA for a professional opinion.
     
  8. doug444

    doug444 STAMPS and POSTCARDS too!

    I don't see how you can be sure it wasn't struck on a foreign planchet; that seems like both the simplest and most likely explanation. To have started with a standard Roosevelt silver planchet, you have to jump through a LOT of hoops to get to this point...
     
  9. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    If you cannot see that the rim has ben messed with AND the fact the the devices of the design "terminate" AT the rim, then no amount of discussion will convince you otherwise.

    A "basic" understanding of the minting process and what happens to the planchet when it is struck by the dies will "tell" you that, regardless of wear, part of the design should still be very evident on that rim area.

    "IF" and this is a HUGE IF, If that piece was struck on a foreign planchet that was smaller than a Roosevelt dime planchet (as indicated by the amount of design that is still showing, i.e. OD), then the devices would have been struck into that rim area and would still show up.

    That coin has been either ground down or cut down to fit into something, most likely a bezel, which is smaller than a Roosevelt Dime. The design is too well centered on whats left.
     
  10. Serich1980

    Serich1980 Member

    I'll try to take some more pics and some with the edges.
     
  11. DustOfTheEarth

    DustOfTheEarth New Member

    i have a half dollar that may or may not be an error. where should i post to get an opinion?
     
  12. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Welcome Dust Of The Earth.
    Start a new thread on this same forum.
    Add images if possible. That will get you better answers than trying to add it on to this thread.
     
  13. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    If it was just struck on a smaller foreign planchet it would not show the rim this coin shows. Any "rim" on the planchet would have been flattened and wiped out by the flat fields of the die.
     
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