Regrade/Crossover to PCGS

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  1. Drjones266

    Drjones266 Money Never Sleeps

    Wanted your opinions on whether I should send this in to PCGS (with 7 other coins) to be regraded/reslabbed in a PCGS holder from an NGC holder. Its currently graded XF 45 BN by NGC. I feel it could be an AU 50 BN based on other coins I've seen. But,if you guys tell me not to waste the money, I won't. Thanks! Also, the scratch that looks like it goes across her neck is actually on the holder, not the coin. Obverse(1).jpg Reverse(1).jpg
     

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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    beautiful spiked chin and die crack on the top. I do not know about the grades on these coins. why switch it out ? others here he can tells you what to do. I would leave it alone. thanks for posting it. :blackalien:
     
  4. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    might get a "damaged" slab.. but I will let someone more knowledgeable answer
     
  5. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    do you have the coin in your avatar ? that coin glows in the dark. cool.
     
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  6. Catbert

    Catbert Evil Cat

    That is a really nice looking coin. Hard to tell from pics how its luster might impact whether it reaches AU50.

    What is your objective in crossing it over? If it is to enhance resale value, then here is today's reported data from CoinFacts (I averaged the auction data from the last 5 sold in each holder) that might be helpful:

    XF45 NGC $458 PCGS $504

    AU50 NGC $632 PCGS $725

    As you consider grading fees, postage, insurance - do you think it's worth it?

    You may want to consider sending it in for CAC review (which would be cheaper to obtain) and if it receives the green bean, you will add market value to the current holder.

    P.S. CAC pop data for XF45 is 6.

    P.P.S. Here is your coin from a 2013 Heritage auction http://coins.ha.com/itm/half-cents/...price-for/a/1189-7051.s?hdnJumpToLot=1x=0&y=0
     
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  7. Ed Sims

    Ed Sims Well-Known Member

    Unless you are absolutely sure it will receive the higher grade and the value difference is significant enough to warrant having it regraded then just leave it be. Another less expensive option is to have it sent to CAC for a sticker. If they feel as you do that it should be labeled an AU it should get a gold bean.
     
  8. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    adding on the re-slabbing fee + shipping + insurance. not to much money left over for more money. my guess is your whole collection is PCGS and you want them to look the same ?
     
  9. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    In my experience slabs have far less credibility with copper collectors so, frankly, I wouldn't even bother.
     
  10. Drjones266

    Drjones266 Money Never Sleeps

    Hey, you found it. :) Main reason to reslab is resale value (almost $100 difference in NGC and PCGS values at AU50), but I think after reading the comments, I'd rather send it to CAC and try for a green or gold bean. The coin is quite brown, but beautiful under light.
     
  11. mainer020648

    mainer020648 Well-Known Member

    You can get an idea by going to PCGS and using the online photograde to compare against the AU. I just did and must say it would be pretty close. The hair details on the AU are a little more pronounced around the ear, the drapery around the bust area slightly more detailed and the leaves on the wreath a also bit more detailed. Picture can be deceiving though but the comparison would at least let you judge for yourself.
     
  12. Drjones266

    Drjones266 Money Never Sleeps

    I felt the same way, and to be honest, in person, the hair lines are more pronounced/defined on my coin when viewed in person. Much more than the photo shows.
     
  13. mainer020648

    mainer020648 Well-Known Member

    I thought that might be the case. You having the coin in-hand and comparing it to the photograde coin will give you a better comparison than me trying to compare 2 photos.
     
  14. Galen59

    Galen59 Gott helfe mir

    I don't think it will grade higher IMHO
     
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  15. mas4492

    mas4492 Junior Member

    If you are a member or join at the level (price) of you choice,the "Quarterly Special" is for you. You may specify the grade the coin must be grade and if it doesn't, they return it to you in NGC plastic. So send the XF45 and write AU50 as the cross grade.

    PCGS Crossover Quarterly Grading Special
    Only Pay for the Coins That Cross!
    Maximum of five (5) coins can be submitted.
     
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  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    mas:

    I don't think you can list a higher grade.
     
  17. Peter T Davis

    Peter T Davis Hammer at the Ready Moderator

    If it were me, I'd leave it where it is. The price jump isn't enough to justify the risk, IMO. If it were a sure thing, then of course go ahead and do it. The CAC idea a couple of people mentioned is more interesting, I'd say. Good luck with it whatever you decide.
     
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  18. mas4492

    mas4492 Junior Member

    Then...no harm, no foul. You would not lose any grades.
     
  19. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Personally I think NGC got it right. And just because the price guides show a difference does not mean you would realize that difference on resale. Sending into CAC is a good idea and never hurts.
     
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  20. Drjones266

    Drjones266 Money Never Sleeps

    Well, I sent my 1804 spiked chin into CAC along with my 1793 Washington, ship, LE. I got lucky and both came back with CAC stickers. Pretty good for my first submission. Sorry for fuzzy pics, my scanner is out of whack. scan.jpg
     
  21. ksparrow

    ksparrow Coin Hoarder Supporter

    congrats on the results. I really like the look of the spiked chin.
     
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