1882 dollar does this have an error ?????

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by cheifwigwam, Jun 22, 2014.

  1. cheifwigwam

    cheifwigwam New Member

    P1020182.JPG P1020183.JPG P1020184.JPG P1020186.JPG hello again all ive been busy buying more coins and have came across this today
    an 1882 dollar which seems to have some kind if split on the rim of the coin also when you look at the edge of the coin it looks like the part where the split is is thicker than the rest of the edge when you look at the coin on both sides the dots around the edge seem very flat and not as prominent on opposite sides on the same face of the coin both sides
    hope somebody will be able to advise and give their opinion on this
    cheers cheifww
     
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  3. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Looks like PMD to me, but I've been wrong before.
     
  4. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I don't know... It looks like some sort of planchet issue or lamination to me.
     
  5. rdwarrior

    rdwarrior Junior Member

    I would be more concerned over the authenticity of the coin first. Too me something does not look quite right on that one.
     
  6. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Error, no. Likely fake, yes. While not based totally upon this as there are other indicators, the "coin" has a very "1921ish" look to my eyes.
     
  7. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Agree. The reverse is wrong for that particular year.

    Note the arrow fletching. The top arrow has fletching which is parallel to the arrow.
    That "straight" fletching only appeared on the 1878 and the 1921 reverses. 1882 was angled in toward the shaft of the arrow on the top fletching.

    1882-S Fletching

    1882-S Fletching CloseUp.jpg


    1921-S Fletching

    1921-S Fletching CloseUp.jpg

    It should be noted that the fletching for 1878 and 1921 is wrong since an angled arrow would, technically, have angled fletching. But I expect that the engraved/sculptor was looking for a more aesthetic piece of art.

    What the OP has is a common fake since counterfeiters often used the reverse of the 1921 to create their products.

    Given the fact that these are created with pot metal, the OP's piece was more than likely dropped or intentionally damaged to create the illusion of an authentic planchet error.

    Hopefully, he didn't pay more than $2.00 for it and if purchased off of eBay, plans on contacting eBay and the seller notifying them that the piece is counterfeit.

    I need to add that I "know" very little about Morgan Dollars but I do KNOW about the fletchings on the reverse.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2014
  8. carboni7e

    carboni7e aka MonsterCoinz

    Looks fake to me
     
  9. Taxidermist

    Taxidermist Collector of US/IL/RU/DE

    Eagle wings, and eagle details in general, look bad. Combined with those rim/edge issues... yeah, fake.
     
  10. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Good catch, I was focusing on the little edge issues and didn't look at the overall coin. You are absolutely correct that it is a counterfeit.
     
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