What's going on with this guy and the sentence he awaits. Did his appeal stop the Gov't in their tracks or is the Gov't still investigating him and his cohorts to file more charges? This thread is being opened simply for discussion. I am thinking a few of the collectors who live in a couple of the militia States would know more about this situation than anyone else. Anyone? http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/25/u...his-fate-behind-bars.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
From people I know personally why have ties to this case the feeling is that the judge doesn't feel that he is "as guilty as he has been accused of being" and it is in fact the judge who may be dragging his feet.
Slightly OT but somewhat related: PCGS has just announced that they are certifying tokens/medals: http://www.pcgs.com/tokensandmedals/ Krause is listed as one of the acceptable publications to identify a token/medal submission, and I believe that some Norfed dollars are listed in Krause but may be wrong. TC
Sounds like a judge with some common sense. The only "crime" he is guilty of is being a threat to the privately owned Federal Reserve.
“This is the United States government,” he said in an interview last week. “It’s got all the guns, all the surveillance, all the tanks, it has nuclear weapons, and it’s worried about some ex-surfer guy making his own money? Give me a break!” This quote from von Nothaus himself kind of says it all, doesn't it?
There are a lot of Norfed Liberty dollars on eBay right now, and prices are no longer through the roof.
Don't you think every counterfeiter probably has made the same argument? I am not saying I necessarily agree with the case, just saying everyone convicted of counterfeiting probably claims their crime isn't such a big deal. To me, putting Lilberty, USA or America, and the denomination in dollars added up to him making something people could easily confuse for authentic US coinage. That is the definition of counterfeiting. If only one of those three things were on the NORFED's, it could probably be overlooked. All three and, in my opinion, it was way too close to authentic US coins. Why was it denominated in dollars? Why did it say USA or America? Why did it have a bold Liberty? The answer, again IMHO, was he WANTED it to resemble US coinage to promote acceptance.
