New Presidential Edge Lettering, Alterior Motives???

1st let me say, I am all for the edge lettering... I think it will be pretty cool as I've never held a coin that had edge lettering and now we'll have one for circulation!!! Sweet

But, I was doin some reading on another site and saw a post about this....

Anyone think putting "In God We Trust" and "E Pluribus Unum" on the edge only makes it out of sight-out of mind???

Same with the removal of the word Liberty.

Is this NWO incrementalism at work???

How long before this becomes the standard for all monetary tokens???

Then how long before all references to the United States are removed so as to not "offend" future images of Mexican and Canadian politicians and citizens of the new union???

Thoughts???

 

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I don't think it makes it "out of sight and out of mind." After all, the vast majority of circulating coinage will continue to retain the motto.

I have no idea what you're talking about with "NWO incrementalism" and a "new union"... are there tinfoil hats involved?

 

I highly doubt there is a conspiracy behind putting "In God We Trust" and "E Pluribus Unum" on the edge of the new dollars. And just because the letting is on the edge of the coin doesn't mean it is out of sight!

It is simply a way to maximize the space for the depictions of the presidents and the statue of liberty. And how better to give the spender an impression of liberty and freedom than by putting the statue of liberty on the coin?

- Jake

 

Howdy,

I concur with the other two posters. In all honesty, it will probably make these mottos even MORE read and appreciated by being on the edge.

I think it's sort of just a continuation of the retro mode the mint's been in since '86 when they used the walker and st gaudens for the models for the new bullion eagles and then went on to buffalo the living hell out of us. Sort of like the Rocky XVI movie that's coming out.

I'm as much of a conspiracy nut as the next person, but simply don't see it in this case.

peace,

rono

 

There has been talk of a possible Monetary Union between the USA/Canada/Mexico on a number of occasions in the past so it is not tin hat time LOL here is one of the reports if you would like to read it :smile

http://oldfraser.lexi.net/publications/critical_issues/1999/amero/

De Orc :thumb:

 

The reason these features were moved to the edge was to make room for a larger, more detailed portrait.


-Paul

 

microchips in are coins is next. big brother is watching you ,,run for our life. lol honestly the New word order is as old as 1984. Its all happening now. lol You should get a bucket of water and poor it on your computer cut your phone lines and what ever you do " DONT GET A CELL PHONE!" -----JUST KIDING-----


When the end is near. Will you know? It already the end of the world as we knew it.

 

Edge lettering sure is neat; we have had it on German and many other European coins for a long time. On collector coins from DE the edge inscriptions even vary - there usually is a motto related to the person or event that is honored. As for the Presidential Dollars, I do not really see any conspiracy here. For a while the edge lettering may, as Rono wrote, even get more attention. And then people will just know it's there, just like you know it is on the other denominations.

What I would have done differently is the year and the mintmark. Those could have been on either the obverse or the reverse, without taking any space "away" from the portraits. Then again, I suppose it is mostly collectors who look for such details.

Christian

 

I understand your concern, smullen, but I wouldn't worry. The vast, overwhelming majority want "In God We Trust" on our coins. It has been there since 1864 and will not go away.

We know where we came from, and we know what the Founding Fathers meant when they talked about "being endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights".

There is a concern relating to TPGs. All existing holders for worthy TPGs (PCGS, NGC, ANACS, and ICG) preclude viewing the edge.

That is bad enough for obscuring the nation's mottos. But for numismatic purposes, it is imperative to see the date and mint mark.

ICG is coming out with a new method of holding the coin. Rather than have a soft plastic gasket contacting the coin, they have a prong arrangement which enables viewers to see the edge of encapsulated coins.

If that works well on these inexpensive pieces, perhaps a similar idea will catch on for many rare issues with distinctive edge varieties. There are many 18th century US pieces (large cents, etc) - as well as some of the early 20th century gold - whose edge signature contributes significantly to rarity, particularly for specialists.

 

I love these conspiracy theorists. They are a hoot !

 

I am a bit of a conspiracy theorist. Like why is "Novus Ordo Seclorum" on our dollar bills, along with pyrimads an all-seeing eye and whatnot. But, as for this edge lettering, I actually think that the novelty of it will make it more noticed to the general public.

 

I dont think its a problem...as long as E Pluribus Unum and Liberty (the concept if not the word...though I prefer having the word) is on our coins...its all good...whether on the side or the surface makes no difference IMO. These two concepts are the most important concepts of america IMO and need to be on our coins...if they disappear...I will put my tin foil hat on and go marching...

 

NGC just came out with a holder that lets you see the edge:

http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.asp?IDArticle=332

 

Apparently the US Mint is having problems getting the edge lettering on the coins perfected, so I bet they wish it wasn't used.

 

While were talking conspiracy theories anyone think that due to the billions of dollar coins that will be produced over the next ten years (President and Sackies) that the Fed will "Temporarily" halt production of paper $1 bills to dispurse the coin stockpile?
I can see this happening right after Kennedy and Kerry retire from public service.

 

Yea, I could see that...

Do you see that having any effect on the economy???

My only question is what do Kennedy and Kerry have to do with it thought....

I don't like either of them, so it won't hurt my feeleing when that does happen...

 

What would "Kennedy and Kerry" have to do with US coins?

Sounds like an Irish pub.

 

Hmm, I am not that familiar with US politics but ... isn't Crane (the paper manufacturer) in Massachusetts?

Christian

 

I wonder if this wil cause the coins to have a lot of errors and varieties

Rick

 

edge lettering

I have to say holding the washington dollar is neat, BUT even uncirculated the edge lettering is really hard to read. Once the coins are circulated, they will be dinged, scratched, and completely unreadable is a short time. i just scratched one with a knife and it was almost of deep as the lettering, with out much work.