Cool little retained Cud.

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by riff, Jun 11, 2014.

  1. riff

    riff I ain't got time to bleed

    abe is a little devil. This one is listed at cuds-on-coins.com
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    nicknamed the "Hitler devil" ? lol just kidding. interesting find. :blackalien:
     
  4. riff

    riff I ain't got time to bleed

    I prefer the "Magnum P.I." stash.
     
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  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Okay! It may be listed on "cuds-on-coins" but it is not a cud. A cud is a break along the rim that extends into the field.

    It's a neat error, but not a cud.

    Chris
     
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  6. Grey184

    Grey184 Member

    Abe has nothing on the Selleck 'stache. Just saying... :)
     
  7. riff

    riff I ain't got time to bleed

    like the title says, it's a RETAINED cud. http://cuds-on-coins.com/retained-cuds/ Who said it was a Cud?
     
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  8. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    agreed, it l0oksmore like a strange lamination.
     
  9. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Give me a break! It is not a retained cud, either. A cud is a break that extends from one point on the rim, goes into the field and curves back to another point on the rim. A retained cud is one that has clearly separated, but has not fallen off of the die.

    This specimen looks like two radial die cracks that happen to be parallel to one another.

    If an Edsel is a Ford, should we expect that all Fords are Edsels?

    Chris
     
  10. riff

    riff I ain't got time to bleed

    i guess you know better than the expert in the field.
     
  11. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    No, I'm quoting the expert! You should note that the site you referenced is dedicated to three former error specialists, one of whom is Alan Herbert. I'm using the explanation detailed by Mr. Herbert in his book. Have you read it?

    Chris
     
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  14. Old Error Guy

    Old Error Guy Well-Known Member

    I think the cuds-on-coins site uses a very workable definition for a retained cud:

    "So, we use the simplest form of what a retained cud is; a die crack that is from rim to rim and has a portion of either the field or a portion of a design element(s) contained within and has a lateral or vertical displacement."
     
  15. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    not to make you mad, but it does look like a die break. I am no expert on this. is a cud a blob of metal on the outside of the coin ?
     
  16. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    To quote BJ Neff from the LCR:

     
  17. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    No retained cud here. Some intersecting die cracks primarily.
     
  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It looks cool but it's just die cracks.
     
  19. Ed Sims

    Ed Sims Well-Known Member

    It also appears there some lamination in the planchet.
     
  20. Bayern1900

    Bayern1900 Member

    Die cracks not a cud
     
  21. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    And the final word is;

     
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