eBay question

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by JBGood, Jun 9, 2014.

  1. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    A coin on auction with a "make offer" invitation caught my eye. I did a little research and made an offer of $105 for a coin that was listed at a "buy now" price of $125.

    He rejects my offer, counters at $120 but raises the "buy now" price to $149! Is this legit?
     
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  3. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    I would leave that item so far in the dust it wouldn't even be funny. Never mind the red flags going off for some sort of fraud, but even a legit seller should've removed the item and relisted to avoid the image of a fraudulent transaction by negotiating and moving the goal posts.

    There's many more sellers and coins out there. Is there something specific about this one that makes you have to have it?
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Legit? Absolutely. He can raise the price anytime he wants. It may not be conducive to your business, but I will bet the other 10,000,000 people will be none the wiser.
     
  5. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    What's the problem? If the coin is worth $120 to you then buy it, if its not worth it to you then either counter again or simply decline.
     
  6. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    I agree! I'm out of this race for sure.
     
  7. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    Worth Shmurf....it's an auction and I'm trying to get it at a lower price.
     
  8. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It's possible he had several offers and figured he listed it too low. We can only guess.
     
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  9. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    You can make an offer on an auction? I did not know, would you mind sending me a link via pm? (I promise I will not buy the coin ;) )
     
  10. He may be having second thoughts about selling it.
     
  11. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Red flags?? Fraud? You must not understand how ebay works. Nothing about this is fishy to me. He just decided to up the buy it now price. Take it or leave it (or re-offer, you have up to 3 offers to give).
     
  12. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Reread my post. One issue I had was potential fraud. The other was it could be a legit business move, but it was a little tacky to move the BIN during a negotiation like that. Simply let the offer of $120 be it and if the buyer accepts everything is good anyway. Moving the BIN just raises unnecessary doubt, doubt that I myself would question whether or not it was smart to finish the transaction, especially if it was a common coin.

    I'm just saying for $120 coin, there's too much going on for me to feel comfortable. Like I said I would've left that auction in the dust. Maybe I would lose out, but at least I would sleep at night knowing I didn't take an unnecessary chance.
     
  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    punt.
    idiot seller
     
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  14. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/310978103419
     
  15. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    This isn't an auction. It's just a BIN/MAKE OFFER. Noting that the seller has already had 8 offers, it doesn't look like he/she is willing to accept anything less than $120-125.

    Chris
     
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  16. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Point being that is not an "auction" - as in you bid on it. It is a listing with a buy it now price.
     
  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Count me in the "nothing wrong with that" column. Sellers can raise or lower BIN prices whenever they like. Since you've made an offer and gotten a counteroffer, it shouldn't make any difference whether he changes the BIN to $125, $150 or $150K.
     
  18. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    But a BIN with a "make offer" invitation is not significantly different.
     
  19. sodude

    sodude Well-Known Member

    Your offer was rejected. The negotiation is over. He can raise or lower the price as he/she likes.
     
  20. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Some sellers are listing coins with BIN prices above the book value, and when you're making a reasonable offer they usually accept it. Sometimes offers are automatically accepted the second you're making the offer.
     
  21. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    But I cannot bid on them. I do not have to exceed the current high bidder or any other of the eBay regulations.
     
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