Koinon of the Macedonians, Alexander the Great

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I have been out of circulation for a while. This is the first coins of the from the Koinon of the Macedonians to make it into my collection.

    AE25
    Obv:- ALEXANDPOV, Diademed head of deified Alexander right, wreath? below the neck
    Rev:- KOINON MAKEDONWN OMONOIA, Athena seated left, helmeted, Nike in right, spear in left, resting left arm on shield behind.
    Koinon of Macedonia.

    AMNG III 334

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    Martin
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Very nice!
     
  4. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Very nice Martin, good details and centering, i don't think i've seen one of these before. i like it..
     
  5. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I should have mentioned that these are from the 3rd century A.D. and are not contemporary with ATG. I am assuming this one comes from the time of Severus Alexander.
     
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  6. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Looks great! How scarce are these?
     
  7. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Stunning!
     
  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sweet => Wow, those are Great Koinon-Coins, my friend ... well done!!

    I have a couple of far more worn-in examples ... I love the "Koinon Look"

    Koinon of Macedonia AE25
    238-344 AD
    Diameter: 25.6 mm
    Weight: 10.9 grams
    Obverse: Diademed head of Alexander the Great
    Reverse: Athena, holding patera and spear, shield behind her



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    Koinon of Macedonia AE25
    238-344 AD
    Diameter: 25.4 mm
    Weight: 12.6 grams
    Obverse: Helmeted head of Alexander the Great gazing upward
    Reverse: Alexander on horseback


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    Last edited: Jun 2, 2014
  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Not only are there several reverses of these, many of the reverses are more interesting than the average. Unfortunately, many I have seen and both I have are not in good shape.
    Olympic game prizes (O/LVM/PIA in middle)
    gi2700bb1927.jpg Compare:
    http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=396832 ...but mine wasn't $1650 either!

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  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I have one from a mixed lot. Someone scraped it up pretty badly in a cleaning attempt. I might try to spruce it up a bit, perhaps clean out the remaining crusty stuff. The type is nice, a depiction of Alexander taming Bucephalus.

    KoinonMacedonBucephalus-LG.jpg

    Here's a nice bronze statue of the same scene, c. 1800's by John Steell. It's in Edinburgh of all places. The Scottish sculptor studied in Rome.

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  11. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I have been discussing my coin with Curtis Clay and he has raised a few points of detail.

    I have mis-described the reverse of my coin. What I had taken as being a shield is not a shield (look at Steve's coin to see what the shield should look like) at all and what I had taken as Nike isn't Nike either.

    My reverse should be more correctly described as follows:-

    Athena seated left holding Cabeiros (not Nike), seat has leg shaped like a lion's leg.

    Curtis also provided me with some additional historical context to this particular issue which is marked with OMONOIA rather than NEOK (or one of the many variations thereof).

    "According to Gaebler, pp. 20-21, these OMONOIA coins have an interesting historical connection in that they apparently commemorated a settlement between the province of Macedonia and the free city of Thessalonica, which did not belong to the Macedonian koinon and was usually squabbling with it. Gaebler thinks that in 231 AD, when Severus Alexander traveled through Macedonia on his way to Syria, Thessalonica and the koinon settled their differences and Thessalonica urged the emperor to allow the koinon to again issue coins with Beroia's title Neokopos, which is missing in this issue but reappears in the next."

    Martin
     
  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    This certainly makes your coin more interesting.
     
  13. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    indeed...and very nice, i haven't seen one just like it. super color!
     
  14. MIRO

    MIRO New Member

    I have one:

    obv.: bust of Severus Aleksander R
    AY K MA CE A ( LEZANDROC - NOT READIBLE - greek letters )

    rev.: KOINON MAKEDONQN EQ ( horsmen with R hand up, star bellow the hors star, flaping garment behind rider )

    I didnt finde this Type of revers. Simmilar yes - right hand down with spear.
    Unusual: EQ after MAKEDONQN
    horsmen is a same as on the coins with ALEXANDER head.

    diameter: 24,53 mm
    weight: 11,02 gr
    edge thickness: min 2,66 mm
    max 3,09 mm

    brown patina
    nice preserved
    coin hammerd out of center in R ( LEZANDROC ) is not readible
    ref. connected with this coin: Gabler, Varbanov
     
  15. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    I have one, bought as Koinon Macedon, no idea how to attribute it. koinon obv.JPG koinon rev.JPG

    Someone told me that it might be from the time of Severus Alexander or maybe Diadumenian.
     
  16. MIRO

    MIRO New Member

    Yes it was minted during emperor S. Alexander ( AD 222 - 235 ), region Makedonia in Thrace. Obv.: ALEZANDROV ( Head of Alexander the great right with loose flowing hair ). Rev.: hard to read out, but left side KOINON - G - NQ ......Star below the hors. ( Alexander the great on his Bucephalus hors. Olympic style game issue. I have sImilar with KONON MAKEDONQN NEQ. Your is a standard VF quolity.
     
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  17. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    here is my Impuls. same as Pishpash

    MACEDON, Koinon. Severus Alexander - Autonomous Provincial Issue 220-245 AD
    Reference.
    SNG Copenhagen 1372 var. (bust type).

    Obv. ALEXANDPOV
    Diademed head of Alexander the Great right.

    Rev. KOINON MAKEDONWN NEW
    Horseman right, thrusting spear

    8. gr
    27 mm
    331 Greek COP 1372var.JPG
     
  18. kevin McGonigal

    kevin McGonigal Well-Known Member

    Why the term"koinon" for this series of coins? The word itself means common as in Koine Greek, the common language of the average Greek so what is "common" about this series of coins?
     
  19. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    Koinon isn't the name for the series of coins. The Koinon of the Macedonians was a confederation of Macedonian communities under Roman rule.

    Here is the relevant wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koinon
     
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  20. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

  21. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    All coins posted are examples I'd love to have in my collection---and I learned quite a bit from all the narrative info. Another 'want list' item to my list!!! Congrats all!!
     
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