Anyone knows this coin?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by donhackme, May 28, 2014.

  1. donhackme

    donhackme New Member

    Hi,anyone knows this coin/seen before and how much can I earn when I sell it?Also how many coins like this one has been made during 1801?
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  3. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    Its fake.
    Victoria wasn`t born until 1819 and became a monarch in 1837.
     
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  4. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    this is a mystery to me because the 1/2 cents in my catalog start with the year 1872-1891 hmmmm not. what's up ??? thought it might be a pattern but those only have the year 1891....:shifty:o_O Fake.
     
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  5. donhackme

    donhackme New Member

    Really,how can it be?So this is really fake one?
     
  6. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    I would rather call it a fantasy piece, or maybe play money. The Straits Settlements were founded/established as a British colony in the 1860s. Here is more about the coins: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straits_dollar#Coins. So yes, in 1801 there was no Queen Victoria, and there was no territory named Straits Settlements either. :)

    Christian
     
  7. Siberian Man

    Siberian Man Senior Member

    It's an usual fake from Asia. They're producing many of such fakes.
     
  8. donhackme

    donhackme New Member

    Feeling pity for them,cloning the coins without knowing who should be on the coins.
     
  9. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    They are not ignorant, they are doing it this way on purpose.
     
  10. donhackme

    donhackme New Member

    What purpose?
     
  11. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    Deception.
     
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  12. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Fantasy designs that some collectors may pay a premium on, without the risk of legal issues since they are technically not counterfeiting existing coins. It's all about risk versus reward. In this case the reward is low, but there is no risk.
     
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  13. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I concur with the other replies. It is a fantasy piece and certainly not a real coin.

    What kinds of coins do you collect & please tell us how/where you got this item?
     
  14. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    Can you fake something that doesn't exist?
     
  15. donhackme

    donhackme New Member

    Ok,I am not coins collector and I can't remember where I got this coin.I just keep it,as it seems very old and maybe valuable.So,this kind of coins is not very rare and valuable?
     
  16. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    That's a philosophical question bro, but the path that makes the least assumptions leads to yes :)

    It's modern and value is that of a novelty piece, which is generally just a few dollars.

    Here is site that discusses a few other pieces that are related to yours: http://blog.slcollectors.com/forgeryfake-coins-of-straits-settlements-part2/
     
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  17. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Maybe we should not be too harsh with regard to such pieces. I mean, it's pretty darn obvious that in 1801 the queen and the territory mentioned on the piece did not exist. :) Lots of rechenpfennig/reckoning tokens vaguely resemble actual coins, and yet we would not call them forgeries.

    Counterfeits are certainly dangerous and damaging. But in my opinion, a counterfeit is something that is intentionally deceptive.

    Christian
     
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  18. willieboyd2

    willieboyd2 First Class Poster

    The item looks like either play money or a gaming piece.

    :)
     
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  19. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

  20. Hotpocket

    Hotpocket Supreme Overlord

    They could have picked any date or none at all. Yet they picked 1801 for a reason. In my opinion it was to trick novice coin buyers as it looks close to 1891 at quick glance.

    Sounds like deception to me.
     
  21. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Nah, targeting novice collectors with really terrible vision is a very small market.
     
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