Off-Center Argentina 1827 10 Decimos

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Dr.Jones, May 24, 2014.

  1. Dr.Jones

    Dr.Jones Well-Known Member

    [​IMG][​IMG]

    Thinking of getting this 10 Decimos graded. Not because it's that rare or nice but I really like it. Any ideas if NGC or PCGS will list it as "Off-Center" on the holder? Not a loaded quested by the way, just curious if those grading agencies will recognize varieties on 19th Century Latin American coins.

    Thanks again!


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Were they using restraining collars on those in 1827?
     
    Last edited: May 24, 2014
  4. Dr.Jones

    Dr.Jones Well-Known Member

    Good point, I'm not sure...


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  5. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    I was just wondering ( I don't know) if it would be considered unusual if it was struck without a collar or just typical uncentered planchet? Especially if their mint issued grog rations. :p
     
    Last edited: May 24, 2014
  6. Dr.Jones

    Dr.Jones Well-Known Member

    This same coin came up for auction about a year ago and I wasn't the winning bidder. It came back up recently and the winning bidder didn't pay so I was given second chance and picked it up for $102.00. It sold for a bit more than that last year. It's not the nicest strike but I rarely see these for sell... I would like to build a set of them.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
    longnine009 likes this.
  7. Derick

    Derick Well-Known Member

  8. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Cool coin!
     
  9. Dr.Jones

    Dr.Jones Well-Known Member

    Thanks Derick & Mat. Also very nice is the 20 Decimos Copper from the same series and I've seen some very nice examples if both. Very interesting coinage...


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  10. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    The 10 and 20 decimos of this type are often off-center. Very nice obverse detail on this coin, now that is not common.
     
  11. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    It almost looks like it was struck on a larger planchet... Possibly a 20??? Have you weighed it to see if it is the proper weight?
     
  12. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    Love this kind of stuff...
     
  13. Dr.Jones

    Dr.Jones Well-Known Member

  14. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    10 and 20 planchet sizes overlap, 10 decimos up to 32mm, 20 decimos 31mm and up. If weight below 16g, it's 10, if 16 or higher, it's 20.
     
  15. Dr.Jones

    Dr.Jones Well-Known Member

    I greatly appreciate that info. I am having it weighed today and will post the results.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  16. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    From memory, this particular coinage was actually overstruck over an older coinage. I have been looking for one with a nice clear overstruck feature but found it to be either out of my price range or in really poor condition. Only reason why I knew this is because of my interest in overstruck coins.

    I do not specialize in this coinage but hope that someone can share more information about this.
     
  17. Dr.Jones

    Dr.Jones Well-Known Member

    That's interesting, I'd love to see an example


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  18. Dr.Jones

    Dr.Jones Well-Known Member

    Ok I weighed this piece and the verdict is in... It's struck on a 10 Decimos planchet. It weighs 14.6g give or take a few 0.1g (I was at the mercy of the postal scale in my office)...

    You had my interest piqued though that this might have been struck on a 20 decimos planchet... Oh well, back to the drawing board :)


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  19. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Here are a couple modern Argentina coins that were struck off center.
    Untitled-1.jpg Untitled-2.jpg
     
  20. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    This is actually a 1986 Argentina 10 Centavos coin. (The NGC label states 50 Centavos).
    Argentina 291166_o.jpg Argentina 291166_r.jpg Argentina 291166_slab.jpg
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page