Diocletian

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  1. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    I received this one today, as a gift from my step mom. Was a type I wanted too, so I'm pretty happy :) . Getting better results with my new camera too.

    I have a later coin of Diocletian, decent but hard to get a detailed pic so I never got one.


    Diocletian AE Antoninianus. Siscia? mint. IMP C C VAL DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG, radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right IOV ET HERCV CONSER AVGG, Jupiter, half naked, standing right holding sceptre & globe, facing Hercules with lionskin, club & victory on globe, crescent & delta between, XXI in ex. RIC V 323.
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  3. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    That is a very nice specimen.
     
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice example, mine is the same pretty much.

    Old school pic.
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    Diocletian
    Silvered antoninianus, RIC V 322, VF, weight 3.721 g, maximum diameter 21.6 mm, die axis 180o Obverse IMP C C VAL DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Reverse IOV ET HERCV CONSER AVGG,Jupiter stg R hldg globe and scepter; Hercules stg L hldg Victory, club,& lionskin, crescent & Z in center, XXI in ex. XXI in ex.
     
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  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Yes, it is a very common type but, IMHO, a very nice one with the two patron gods of Diocletian and Maximianus. There are many high grade, well struck examples but it is a great coin to be your only pre-reform Diocletian if you are to have just one.
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    Mine has more wear than either of the others shown but I still like mine best due to the style.
     
  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    A very nice example Randy. I recently came across this coin, with a dramatic double strike...

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  7. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Thanks all. I feel like digging out my other and getting pics now XD.
     
  8. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    what a nice gift RG..congrats to you.

    I think someone scored some mothers day points. :kiss:
     
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  9. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Very nice Randy, color and details awesome...
     
  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice => Great lookin' new pick-up, Randy (oh, and others) ... great coins!!

    Ummm, I don't seem to have one of these particular Diocletian types (*sigh*)

    => but I do have this good ol' Diocletian example to toss into the mix ...


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  11. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Hello. May I ask if all these coins above are of medal alignment? I have a similar coin but of coin alignment. Is that common or rare ? Thanks..
    Charles
     
  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Mine is medal (12H) but Diocletian was not consistent on this and I have other coins of his that are coin (6H).
     
  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Zeus' feet are at the top of Diocletian's head ... is that 12 or 6? (ummm, I'm guessing that is 6 o'clock?)
     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Hold the coin with obverse forward with one finger at the top and the thumb at the bottom. Spin the coin around so you see the reverse. The hour number is read according to where the top of the design is on a clock face. Medal axis (12H) coins have the top in the same place at the top. Coin axis (6H) will have the reverse top pointing down. Other coins, including very many Greek silvers, will show the top pointing right (3H) or left (9H). Coins that fall in the spaces can be coded, for example, 1H for almost upright but tilted a bit to the right or 5H for almost upside down but a little right of straight down. The advantage of this system is that it can be coded using very few characters and does not require arrows not part of a normal typewriter set.
     
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  15. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    HERE IS MY DIO -]
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  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    tell ya what => Canadian Coins are 180 degrees different than US coins ...

    Ummm, are Canadian coins 12 o'clock, or 6 o'clock
     
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  17. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    UK coins are 12 o'clock so I assume Canada follows that pattern. My Bank of Upper Canada 1857 halfpenny is 5H. My 1797 Cartwheels are 6H while most of my hammered (Edward I through Charles I) are 9H or 3H. I do not know when they got consistent on the matter.
     
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