1916-S $5 Indian Half Eagle Gold Coin

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by pradaboy, May 8, 2014.

  1. pradaboy

    pradaboy Member

    Hi, I just purchased and received a 1916-S $5 Indian Head Gold Coin in a PCGS Slab graded as AU55.

    I was wondering if anyone knows how much the Reverse is rotated from the front? When I turn it over it isn't quite a 180 degree rotation.

    It's it making me doubt its authenticity and I would like some reassurance.

    Thanks all!
     
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  3. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Did you check their verification page? http://www.pcgs.com/cert/
    If there is a pic, you can compare your coin to the pic.
     
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  4. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    US Mint tolerance is something like 15-degree rotation between the obverse and reverse. Slight rotation is not uncommon.
     
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  5. pradaboy

    pradaboy Member

    I did check the cert page, unfortunately no pic.
     
  6. pradaboy

    pradaboy Member

    Should it be upside down and slightly rotated compared to the front?
     
  7. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    All US coins are struck what we call "coin turn", which means that the top of the obverse matches up with the bottom of the reverse. Some nations produce coins that are struck what we call "medal turn", which means that the top of the obverse matches up with the top of the reverse.
     
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  8. pradaboy

    pradaboy Member

    Thank you for that info. I'm pretty new to coin collecting. Especially with gold coins.
     
  9. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    No worries...we learn by asking questions. This is the way all US coins are meant to be, not just gold. :)
     
  10. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    If you still have a concern, post obverse and reverse and we can help you.
     
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  11. pradaboy

    pradaboy Member

    Sorry those were the best pictures I could get with my phone. There is almost like a shrink wrap over the holder as well.

    image.jpeg image(1).jpeg
     
  12. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Can you post really good photos?
     
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  13. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Can you slide the holder out of the sleeve and shoot better images?
     
  14. pradaboy

    pradaboy Member

    coin1.jpg coin2.jpg Best I can get with my iphone.
     
  15. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Nice slight rotation. MIGHT get a error label if you asked them to label as such. I think they have to be over 15 degree rotated for them to label it. I submitted a 1925-D $2 1/2 Indian with about a 30 degree rotation and it graded as a MS62 error. I was able to sell that for a pretty profit. Are you interested in selling this one?
     
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  17. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Your slab does not look legitimate. Where did you buy it from?
     
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  18. pradaboy

    pradaboy Member

    I bought from a coin dealer online with reputable feedback.
     
  19. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    It appears to have notches cut out of the plastic on either side of the coin and I don't recall that as ever being a PCGS style. Also, the date is placed so far to the left of the insert that it is covered somewhat by the border plastic. Again, I do not ever recall seeing that, either. The barcode also appears to be too short. Perhaps it is from your images, but I don't like the look of what is going on with this piece.
     
  20. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    I cannot tell from your images, but you can be my eyes. Is there an unnatural looking flat area in the recess at the back of the Indian's neck, where it meets the headdress?
     
  21. pradaboy

    pradaboy Member

    It doesn't look any different in depth from the front of the neck to me.
     
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