6th 1913 Liberty Nickel found! Bust out your wallet.

Members of the PCGS forum posted that they were going to report the listing. That is most likely what caused the listing to disappear.

 

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I didn't realize Santa had unicorns.

 

I reported it...perhaps others here did too.

 

This has been fun....If ever up that way or someone is near there, see if we can get the true scoop on this. I personally think the seller is a con artist. Can you imagine all the questions they got? His replies were a joke. When I got home I saw they pulled it...again I am not sure what to think about that one...

 

It was reported multiple times for fraud. I also reported it.

 

Watchers, viewers, bidders. ???

 

I hope anyone considering a purchase from BKOZAK33 in the future makes a point to read his posts in this thread. Its not an attack, it is a warning. It shines a light on his numismatic level and more importantly his morals utilized in a sale.

 

I just purchased something from the dear fellow. Clear and straight forward in it's listing, I have no fear that it will arrive as is most described......

Can't ya stand a little leg pulling old chum?

 

Not really what I was saying but, ok. I am jokester by nature. But what was the joke he made that I missed? He says he bid. He defended why he bid. And anytime I comment on his posts, his answer to me is "You bought silver at $50, and you are angry about it" - which couldnt be further from the truth. I never paid over $27 (including premium) for non-numismatic bullion; or so says my spreadsheet. I do not doubt that you bought something from him and the item arrives as described. However, I personally could never knowingly purchase something from him. I also am 100% confident he does not own one item I am searching for.

 

Since when is it okay for someone to bid, and only after winning, refuse to pay until/unless allowed to have the coin authenticated or "inspected"? Is this now part of ebay's buyer-coddling ridiculousness? Unless this is policy (and even then), I fail to see how a buyer would be "under no obligation to pay" simply because a seller refused to bend over for them. I don't care if the coin sells for six figures or twenty bucks; if someone, without a gun to their head, makes a conscious decision to gamble, they've no right to make demands only after winning and refuse to pay if said demands are not met. If one is not comfortable with the offering and/or paying for it, they shouldn't be bidding and it's a simple as that.

 

He was trolling.

 

If you read my comments you will find that I never say I believe it's real. In fact, I make it clear that I believe it is fake. My whole point is that no one can say 100% for sure based on the photos provided. Like you said, 99.99%. Just not 100% like some others are saying.

 

I disagree. I would imagine the majority of people in this world, if they were the winning bidder of such a rare and valuable item, would want to authenticate the item before transferring funds. It's really just common sense. If the item is not real, then it should not have been listed. Counterfeit coins are not allowed to be sold on eBay.

Again, the seller doesn't have to bend over. The seller can choose not to adhere to the demands of the buyer. In which case, I think it is prudent of the buyer to refuse to pay. It's that simple.

 

A coin of that potential value doesn't get shipped. The buyer would have to tell the seller they are going to pick up the coin with an attorney and coin expert present. Anyone who has the funds to take a $62,000 chance surely has the funds to hire an attorney, coin expert and fly to where the coin is located. If it was me personally, I would even have a film crew come along.

 

Normally I would agree but when you are claiming directly or indirectly to have found the sixth coin in a series know only to have 5 not in a holder (even igc or anacs) with a bid over 60k I think the rules change in this one time only unique situation.

 

Exactly. This isn't just some coin that cost "20 bucks". Finally someone shows some common sense. Thank you Vegas Vic.

 

Then contact the seller PRIOR TO BIDDING... it's THAT simple. If you don't like the terms, no one is forcing you or anyone else to bid. This is nothing more than an example of one wanting their cake and to eat it too.

The coin is most certainly "real", but not of the date claimed. Therefore, this is not a "counterfeit", but an "altered" specimen; there is a difference.

Common sense? Perhaps you should work on the wording in your posts. The addition of "especially on something of such value" implies that you were not speaking only of this coin.

 

Looks like a perfect 1918 v cut into a 1913 hehe

 

You sound like a frustrated dealer on eBay. Dude get over it if you are dumb enough to sell a fake 1913 v nickel then you deserve whatever problems come your way. Instead of looking at this guy as the eBay buyer who swaps coins on you just see it as a guy talking about a item selling on eBay that is clearly going to snad.

 

What you don't seem to understand is the fact that nobody can say 100% sure is EXACTLY WHY YOU SHOULDN'T BID ON IT. Sorry if that wasn't entirely clear... plus you seemed to miss my other point that when dealing with extreme rarities, you should presume it to be fake until it's proven to be real, NOT the other way around. The person making the extraordinary claim has the burden of proof; and when claiming an extremely rare coin is real, that's an extraordinary claim.