6th 1913 Liberty Nickel found! Bust out your wallet.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by gbroke, May 2, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    my bid was 62000, i did that last night
     
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    Im sure INB has a buy back policy just like pcgs if it turned up fake
     
  4. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    I bet PayPal doesn't release the funds on that one for a long time. In a quiet way, it's also making eBay out as a foolish media and a buyer beware operation for honesty. Evidently, they don't mind digging themselves into a deeper hole. Are they trying to downgrade their business model into something worse then a flea market? At one time, they sent me an inquiry asking why my business fell off with them so dramatically. I wish I had this link to attach to my reply.
     
    JPeace$ and rzage like this.
  5. jakchota

    jakchota Active Member

    hopefully you get what your looking for.
     
  6. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I assume you are just doing this to prevent someone who doesn't know better from paying thousands for a worthless coin. If that's the case, doesn't such an action put you at risk with eBay?
     
  7. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    cant lose.
    If its fake, INB will buy it back. He is a top rated seller, that doesnt know what he has.
     
  8. jakchota

    jakchota Active Member

    when the bidding goes through. request for a first party grading. not a third party grading you can ask your friend to hook you up aka 50/50 dirty money. hehe
     
  9. jakchota

    jakchota Active Member

    [​IMG]
    Author information
    eb0lavirus (687)
    Follow

    73
    Votes
    3
    Guides



    0 Is this guide helpful?
    I would like to get the information out there about a store here on ebay name numismaticbureau...They are also know by International Numismatic Bureau and INB...I purchased a few sets of coins from this store only to find out they are not what it seems...INB grades every single coin in their store at MS70 which by ANA standards is the perfect, flawless coin...INB is NOT a grading company, it is merely someone (someones) that work out of their home and sell off substandard coins slabbed with a fake grade to make more money from them...My last purchase was an American silver eagle coin when pictured is a gorgeous, flawless coin although when I received it, there were surface scratches on the obverse and rear along with toned spots all over the rim leading me to believe it had been cleaned...
    Previous to this I purchased some slabbed 2009 Lincoln cents graded at MS70, all the cents in the set were plagued with spotting and scratches, hardly MS70 grade...Just because a coin was removed from a mint roll does not mean it is MS70 grade, or even MS65...Every single coin in that store is graded MS70, all of them...That should tell you something about the so called professional grade system that is going on...
    When I mentioned the substandard condition of the so called MS70 coins the seller responded with 'Grading is subjective, and different companies have different standards. The auctions clearly show that these are INB coins, and the grading is consistent with INB standards' followed with I can return them but there will be no promise of replacing them...The auction also stated that this is 'of the highest grade'
    INB has no standards but the ones they create and certainly do not go by ANA standards, stick to real grading companies or you will get burned by these fly by nights...Beware of fake companies made up so they can gain more money off of false grades...I am not attempting to slander the store in any way, I want buyers to know what they are getting into dealing with this person...Please stick to known grade companies so you don't have to deal with returns and a sale you are not happy with...INB takes hundreds of people for a ride daily so don't be one of them...The images used are stock photo and do not represent what you are getting...They chop up mint sets and sell 41 cents worth of coins in cheap slabs to you for 6 dollars or more...
    INB store link, please go check them out...INB STORE
    I include the link so you can see for yourself...You will not see the defective and substandard coins I speak of but you will see that every coin is MS70 which I find hard to believe...Don't let the piece of plastic it's in get you all happy and think it's above value...I have bought silver eagles loose that are finer than graded coins...Try a mint company, they always have good stuff and have a reputation to stick too...There are many other 'lower class' grade companies here on ebay but I have not yet experienced any issues with the two I purchased...I will stick to ANACS, NGC, and PCGS from now on though...I hope this helps...

    EDIT: See coin pictures in another guide I wrote to go along with this one here
     
  10. jakchota

    jakchota Active Member

    clearly a legitimate scam..
     
    Travlntiques likes this.
  11. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    "Legitimate scam" is kind of an oxymoron isn't it lol?
     
    NOS likes this.
  12. PennyGuy

    PennyGuy US and CDN Copper

    I am amazed by some of the posts in this thread and quite afraid some of them are not in jest.

    If anyone is in the Michigan area and would like to see an authentic 1913 V Nickel plan on coming to the Michigan State Numismatic Society fall conference in Warren, MI Friday to Sunday after Thanksgiving. The 1804 Dollar and the 1913 nickel from the ANA Museum will be on exhibit at the show.
     
    rzage and jakchota like this.
  13. jakchota

    jakchota Active Member

    hehehe shhh:banghead:
     
  14. AWORDCREATED

    AWORDCREATED Hardly Noticeable

    Is this your listing or how else can you tell how many watchers?
     
  15. KSorbo

    KSorbo Well-Known Member

    If my understanding of Ebay's buyer protection is correct, there is little to no downside risk of purchasing this coin. When PCGS or NGC declares it counterfeit and/or altered (note that I said "when" and not "if") the coin can be returned for being "significantly not as described". With that being said, why wouldn't somebody be willing to take the plunge on the off chance that there really is a 6th 1913 Liberty that hasn't been discovered? After all, none of us were alive in 1913, so how can we be so sure? (Don't get me wrong, I still don't think this has a snowball's chance of being genuine...)

    I seriously doubt that anyone who thought they had the genuine article would publicize it in this manner. However, it wouldn't surprise me if somebody with a lot of money who doesn't know much about coins would bet on something like this.
     
  16. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    I see no reason to believe its not real.It looks like a v nickel, and the date on it, is 1913. Those are facts
     
  17. Ethan

    Ethan Collector of Kennedy's


    More money than sense. I mean if and that is a BIG if it might have a chance, it would not be by this particular seller. I have read the threads about name changes and feedback erasing etc.

    Even if I had the monies to bid, it would not be worth the hassle as your odds are not very good at all.
     
  18. Ethan

    Ethan Collector of Kennedy's

    I hope you are right, really I do.
     
    bkozak33 likes this.
  19. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    Or one of the five accounted for could actually be a fake. So many possibilities ;)
     
    Endeavor likes this.
  20. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    I don't see anything in the photo that unequivocally proves it's a fake. That doesn't mean it can't be fake or that I believe it is real - I believe it is most likely a fake. However I cannot say it is fake with absolute certainty. One member earlier posted it is 100% fake without question. When I asked why they were so convinced they had nothing to say other than they would bet their life on it. What a ridiculous statement.
     
    Endeavor2 likes this.
  21. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

    That is very, very unlikely considering how closely examined those 5 have been. With that said, it is still possible. The fake would have to be virtually indistinguishable from a genuine example. At least enough to fool the experts.
     
    Endeavor2 likes this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page