Those are but methods, Doug. I started collecting the same time you did. There are methods, even today. That doesn't mean that electro-toned coins are acceptable to collectors. You never heard of that one, did you? Lol. The truth is, we stuck by our Redbooks. You're not going to find any of those methods in the Redbooks. You'll find them in the advertisements in the comic books. I just don't buy that collectors found harsh cleaning or polishing acceptable back then. Maybe collectors of silverware, not coin collectors. I'm going to be needing to see collectors saying they accepted that. Dealers dipped coins back then, and collectors didn't even accept that. Today, most collectors do accept it. Shows you how much they know about "original." Doesn't it?
I have one in a PCGS vf35. the coin pictured looks a little strong around the face and kinda weak on the reverse. now there were a lot of weird strikes back then from the mint with weak/strong spots on different coins in different places. cross your fingers and send it in, good luck. me, I won't buy one not graded, I'll pay the extra to know what's what that far back.
Eddie - if collectors accepting it is what you consider proof then all you need to do is read this forum. There are literally countless numbers posts here made by people who collect coins that still advocate using harsh cleaning methods. What I was trying to show you is that even the so called experts of the day, the guys who wrote the books for collectors, recommended it and advocated it, including Ken Bressett, the guy in charge of the Red Book. Were there people who did not advocate harsh cleaning ? Absolutely, I told you about my grandfather. But they were a minority back then.
It looks altered to me too ... one the 'bustii' - looks filled. I like old coins and still like the look of it ...