1990 Lincoln with lathe lines on the reverse

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  1. pamckees

    pamckees Junior Member

    Found this 1990 Lincoln with lathe lines a while back. IMG_1508.JPG IMG_1509.JPG IMG_1510.JPG IMG_1487.JPG
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    They might be cutting lines of some kind, but they definitely aren't lines from a lathe unless the operator had a death wish. Would you mind giving us a photo of the entire coin?

    Chris
     
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  4. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    They definitely look like lathe lines, but I would like to see a full image of the reverse also. Lathe lines show clearly in full coin photos, and you don't need to photograph them at this amount of magnification.
    You should submit it to Jason at errorvariety.com. He doesn't have this one listed.
    http://www.errorvariety.com/Lathe-lines/index.html
     
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  5. cpm9ball

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    I've never seen a lathe that could cut straight lines and ellipses. It must have been made in China.

    Chris
     
  6. pamckees

    pamckees Junior Member

    Pics of the 2 sides of the coin. These lathe lines do not appear as prominent as the ones on the 1996 Lincoln, but they are all over the reverse. IMG_1864.JPG

    I did send pics to Jason Cueller. This coin corresponds to the one he has listed as
    90PLL001R. I found the 2 thin die-cracks on the reverse as markers after receiving
    his reply.
     

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  7. cpm9ball

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    Just as I thought! I just finished reading Jason's explanation. Apparently, you don't understand what concentric lines (or concentric circles) are. The OP's coin does not display lathe lines.

    Chris
     
  8. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Chris,
    I have no idea what is going on with these photos, but the elliptical lines threw me off at first too, but when I hovered my mouse over the image they disappeared. It's some sort of weird artifact with the image.
     
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  9. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Chris,
    I understand full well what concentric circles are and I'm very familiar with lathe lines on Lincoln cents. This coin is showing lathe lines.
     
  10. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    That looks like the one. Nice find! Here's a link if others wish to take a look at Jason's photos.

    http://www.errorvariety.com/Lathe-lines/90PLL001R.html
     
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  12. cpm9ball

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    Well, I'm still seeing the lines going every which way on the OP's first three photos, and the "mouse over" hasn't changed it for me. Strange!

    Thanks!

    Chris
     
  13. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    this is a proof 1990-S, its missing the S too 2222.jpg
     
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  14. pamckees

    pamckees Junior Member

    Rick, it would be amazing if this coin is a proof 1990 w/no S. The coin does look better in hand than in the pics. I showed the coin to two local coin enthusiasts and they both agreed it was not a proof, hmmm. So my question is - What are you seeing that I don't ?
     
  15. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    heres a easy way to tell, turn the coin side-ways, see if you can catch images in the field of things around it, coin also looks red, not orange like a business strike, looks mirrored too me, heres a link from pcgs of the 1990 no S http://www.pcgs.com/top100/coin9.aspx
     
  16. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    heres a photo from pcgs too 123.jpg
     
  17. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Rick. That first pic is NOT a Proof 1990 No-S.
     
  18. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    Weird artifact from the imaging is correct. No way a lathe could have made all those lines. With better images, I might agree with part of the lines being lathe lines.
     
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  19. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    maybe its just his image, but it sure looks like a proof to me, no CAM effect
     
  20. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    It's just you. :p Look at the rim. It's not even close to what it should be if it is a proof.
     
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  21. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    And if you want even more proof that it is not a proof (pun intended), just look at the closeup pictures in the first post. Not even close to proof details.
     
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