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Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by dougsmit, May 2, 2014.

  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I just got home from my day at the coin show which means you get bored by the coins that followed me home. Today I brought home fewer than usual but spent more money not because prices were up but because I found some nicer than my usual items. First is an upgrade for one of my favorite coins. My first photo attempt will not be the last but I was thrilled to upgrade my Akragas tooth trias with one that shows the crab's claws. They are not clear on many of these including my now surplus old one. The new coin has no better detail on the eagle but I really wanted a crab.

    The old one:
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    the new one from today:
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    The best thing is this duplicate was purchased intentionally. I have such a problem with buying things I already had.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Never seen that tooth coin before, cool. Are they rare?
     
  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Ask Steve. He has several.
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I know he owns at least one. Very interesting coin.
     
  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Fantastic new addition => I love these coins, and I know that you think that they're kinda cool as well ... great new pick-up!!

    Hey Doug, you mentioned my name, but "you" were certainly the one who first posted one of these super-cool ancient cast-coins (thanks for opening my eyes to these babies) ...

    but ummm yah, I did kinda take the ball and run with it!! (I love these "first" ancient bronze babies) ...


    ;)


    Akragas AE Cast Trias (4 Onkia)
    => Eagle & Crab & 4 dots on top

    akragas 4 too too.jpg akragas 4.jpg akragas 4 too.jpg


    Akragas AE Cast Onkia
    => Eagle Head & Crab Claw

    Sicily Akragas a.jpg
    Sicily Akragas b.jpg


    Selinos AE Cast Onkia
    => Kanthros & Selinon Leaf

    Sicily Selinos a.jpg Sicily Selinos b.jpg


    Selinos AE Cast Tetras
    => Gorgon Face & Selinon Leaf

    Selinos Tetras a.jpg Selinos Tetras b.jpg
     
    Last edited: May 3, 2014
  7. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Those are pretty neat. One thing I like is you can never truly have a duplicate of anything with ancients.
     
  8. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i always wonder if those were ammunition for a sling when i see them...

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  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Doug => I see that your original is now listed in the CT "trades" section (good luck finding something else to add to your cool collection) ... it is a very cool cast-coin with great colour
     
  10. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    DS how old are these types ??? I know nothing about them.
     
  11. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    5th century bc i believe
     
  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Early 5th century as I understand it. Some question their being coins but I say the denomination dots suggests they are.
     
  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => when I sent my coin to David Sear for authentication, he stated 450-425 BC for the Akragas AE Cast Trias (4 Onkia) ...


    ... the other 3 cast-coins were from CNG auctions:
    450-440 BC for the Akragas Eagle & Crab-claw Onkia,
    450-440 BC for the Selinos Gorgon-Face Tetras,
    435-415 BC for the Selinos Kanthros Onkia ...


    => so yah, chrsmat & Doug are bang-on!! => early 5th century
     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Researching the coins on acsearch pointed out a recurring problem. Dealers often have no idea what they are saying on the denominations. The dots refer to the parts out of 12 represented by the coin. A Trias is 1/3 or four dots while a Tetras is 1/4 or three dots. The number of professionals that reverse these is not flattering to the professionalism expected in the hobby.
     
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hi Doug ... ummm, often I have a difficult time reading you ... are you referring to one of my coin-references, or are you merely stating that some dealers have suspect descriptions? (man, you scare the coin-crap outta me, my friend!!)
     
  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Here: http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=662330
    again: http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=662331
    and again: http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=662332

    There may be more but now you make it look like I'm picking on one dealer when I said 'on acsearch' (not in a famous Northern collection).
     
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