Ancients:Another Republican new to me

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by dougsmit, May 3, 2014.

  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    My coin show Friday turned up two Republican denarii that really appealed to me. One I bought; the other was left for someone else. I left a really perfect EF fine style Roma/chariot coin with a moneyer I do not have. I bought a coin that could be better in terms of condition but had designs best described as NOT the standard Roma/chariot.
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    L. Caesius used a left facing bust of Veijovis hurling a thunderbolt. Behind his head is a monogram that has been interpreted in two different ways by different scholars. Unfortunately my specimen is a bit crowded at that side so you might want to look up a perfect example before deciding which theory you prefer. At the top is a P. Below is an A of the style where the crossbar is v shaped rather than straight. Some say this is AP for Argentum Publicum (Public Silver) denoting the metal for the issue was from the state treasury rather than provided by the moneyer. We have no records that state whether or not this issue was from public silver. The same monogram can be read as ROMA with every line of the monogram being part of at least two letters. I prefer the Roma theory.

    The reverse shows two men in an odd semi-seated posture with a dog between them. They are identified as Lares (household gods) by ligate letters on either side: LA at the left and retrograde RE at the right. The standard reading for the right side is PRE making the whole Lares Praestites or Lares that guard the city. I am unclear how the monogram here is better read that way than simple completing the word Lares. In either case we see guardian gods and a guard dog. Most simple is the exergue LCAESI naming the moneyer of 112-111 BC. My example has a terrible rendition of the bust of Vulcan at reverse top with faint tongs behind him. This coin sure looked a lot better at the show before I started comparing it to others shown online and in books. At the show I saw the different obverse and reverse figures; at home I became more aware of the weak minor details which add interest to the type.

    TIF posted a better example of this coin a while back:
    http://www.cointalk.com/threads/ancients-l-caesius-roman-republic-some-questions.236766/
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I guess you have two threads about the same coin. Regardless, I still like this coin ;)
     
  4. Ripley

    Ripley Senior Member

    The reverse is kind of gay, I like it. :watching:
     
  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Lovely addition.
     
  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Hey Doug ... ummm, I think you have two identical threads associated with this topic? (or maybe it's just me?)
     
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