Wilhelm I 10 Mark 1872 C

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  1. Drusus

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    PREUSSEN, Wilhelm I., 1861-1888, 10 Mark 1872 C

    10 Mark 1872, C. Gold. J.242., nearly FDC

    Can someone give me a KM# and a suggested price for this coin? I have yet to get a pre-1901 world coin catalog

    or if you have a link to the information, would be a of great help.
     
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  3. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector

    1872 C Preussen 10 Mark
    KM# 502 / Fr.3821
    Mintage: 1,747,000
    .1152 oz AGW
    KM Values: UNC=$275 / BU=$325
    Fr. Values: UNC=$300
    Mint Mark of "C" denotes Cleve Mint
     
  4. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    That is a very nice gold 10 Mark from Prussia.

    Aidan.
     
  5. Drusus

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    thanks silver eagle...much appreciated
     
  6. antidote

    antidote New Member

    Over here they are sold for about 175 USD (XF)
     
  7. Drusus

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    this is being sold for 360 USD
     
  8. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector


    Drusus,

    For what my two cents is worth .....
    10 Mark coins from "C" Cleve mint are scarce ( Very few,less than 4, included in either PGCS or NGC Census) but with that said I wouldn't pay that kind of money unless it would grade out at least MS-64 and TPG.
    If your just like the design and not interested in the scarcity or in collecting the set or series you can find many MS-66 /67 in the 1872 A for probably that price or a little less. There are always a few on Ebay.
     
  9. Drusus

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    I have been looking on e-bay (US, Brit, german) and I havent found one quite this nice...most have wear or scratches...I am waffling :)
     
  10. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector

    Are you talking about a "1872 C" or a 1872 Prussia 10 Mark (Type I) in general , any mint ?
     
  11. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    Prussia wilhelm I 10 mark in general, year and mint is less important as no scratches and gouges...I want UNC/BU. maybe I am not searching the best way but I am getting quite a few hits, all have scratches or wear (some I am just iffy on because the picture isnt good)
     
  12. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector

    Drusus,

    Check out these sites, they both have 1872 A in high MS grades for a lot less expensive !!

    NEN
    1872-A Gold 10 Mark NGC MS-66 = $249
    1872-A Gold 10 Mark NGC MS-65= $219

    Steinbergs
    1872-A Gold 10 Mark NGC MS-66 = $195
    1872-A Gold 10 Mark NGC MS-67 = $250

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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I agree Drusus, that coin is way overpriced at $360. And to illustrate the point even more so, both NEN and Steinbergs tend to always be at the higher end of the scale with their prices. They are both great sellers and I would trust either implicitly, but they do make you pay for it.
     
  14. Drusus

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    I am willing to pay a bit more for trustworthy :) Thanks for the links...
     
  15. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    By the way, the "C" mint mark refers to the Frankfurt mint. That one closed in 1879 ...

    Christian
     
  16. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Christian,I thought that the 'C' mintmark was that of the Clausthal Mint,which had struck the Hanovarian coinage between 1814 & 1866,& the coins of Brunswick-Luneburg-Calenburg-Hanover prior to 1814.

    Aidan.
     
  17. Drusus

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  18. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    C = Breslau? Ummm ...:rolleyes: There once was a mint in Breslau (today Wroclaw) but that closed in the early 19th century (1820 or so) and used the mintmark B.

    May well be that C was (also) used by the Clausthal mint. But when that German Empire was founded in 1871, neither Breslau nor Clausthal were among the mints.

    Here is a list of mints that were "active" in those years (the places in bold make the current German coins). The list is from the Baden-Württemberg state mint:
    http://www.staatlichemuenzenbw.de/CMS/index.php?lang=de&swf=1&pid=s2&dmy=1170637218

    Christian
     
  19. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Christian,that is a very good mintmark chart,even though I was able to read the words 'Konigreich' & 'Grossherzogtum',in addition to the states' names.

    Aidan.
     
  20. silvereagle82

    silvereagle82 World Gold Collector

    Christian and Adian,

    The K&M World gold 5th edition list the German States - Prussia "C" mintmark as the Cleve Mint.
     
  21. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    That is correct but refers to a different time. In the kingdom of Prussia, this system of mintmarks instead of the former mintmaster symbols) was introduced in the mid-18c. And yes, Kleve (or Cleve) used the "C" then. However, the mint in Kleve was closed around 1770 - about 100 years before this coin, made in Frankfurt, was issued ...

    Christian
     
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