2017

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by jlogan, Apr 27, 2014.

  1. jlogan

    jlogan Well-Known Member

    i just noticed that both the presidential AND native american dollar series are set to end in 2016. any thoughts on what they will do with the dollar in 2017? switch back to the 2000-2008 sacagewea? or maybe a new design?
     
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  3. josh's coins

    josh's coins Well-Known Member

    Hopefully a new design that would be based off of barber's engravings or something like that. Our coins lack creativity
     
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  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    So to counteract the lack of creativity we go back 100 years for inspiration?
     
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  5. jlogan

    jlogan Well-Known Member

    i think it would be cool to use some old silver dollar designs like morgan, peace, trade, etc. on golden dollars.
     
  6. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Well, if the Federal Reserve Bank has their way, the coins will simply be dropped.

    If Congress comes to their senses and take budgeting on a National Level seriously, the design will change to something else as I doubt that they would go back to the Original Sacagawea design.
     
  7. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    Putting it mildly.
     
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  8. jlogan

    jlogan Well-Known Member

    i wonder when they will finally phase out the $1 bill. it would have made a lot more sense if they would have done it
    a) in the 1970's when the $2 bill was brought back
    b) in 2000 when the sacagewea came out or
    c) in 2007-early 2008 when the presidential dollars actually circulated (at least around here)

    at least the $2 bill is becoming a little more popular. there's a bank near me that uses them in the place of 2 ones and i've seen a lot more people spending them
     
  9. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    They should stop the dollar program until the run out of dollars in inventory. That should take us until mid century.
     
  10. jlogan

    jlogan Well-Known Member

    i think they have about 900,000,000 in stock (counting SBA and ikes).
    the US prints about 2,000,000,000 $1 notes a year. if we eliminated the $1 bill, i estimate the current supply of $1 coins could last about 6 months. but, the $1 coins could last about 30 years in circulation, so they wouldnt have to make as many after the first couple of years
     
  11. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    If I recall, the current law says that the Sacagawea/Native American dollars will still be minted after the presidential series ends (which will end with Reagan's coin as the third Presidential Dollar of 2016).
     
  12. jlogan

    jlogan Well-Known Member

    from wikipedia:

    "On September 20, 2007, Public Law 110-82, known as the Native American $1 Coin Act, was signed by president George W. Bush.[10] The act specified in part that the one dollar coin shall depict "images celebrating the important contributions made by Indian tribes and individual Native Americans to the development of the United States and the history of the United States."[10] The act also called for the removal of the date from the obverse and "E PLURIBUS UNUM" from the reverse of the coin, opting instead to add them to the edge.[10]

    The program, set to last until 2016, requires that the reverse of the dollar depict a new design every year.[10] In order to determine which design to depict on the coins, officials from the United States Senate Committee on Indian Affairs, the Native American Caucus and the National Congress of American Indians, the consulting organizations for the program, appoint a liaison to the United States Mint.[11] "
     
  13. josh's coins

    josh's coins Well-Known Member

    Well 100 years ago it looks like we did something right don't you think?
     
  14. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    Yeah, that's what wiki says, but I can't find any mention of 2016 as the last year in the 2007 law itself. I've read that Sac's were to continue, by law, after the prez series ended, but I haven't found the proper reference. Thanks.
     
  15. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    My guess is the dollar coin will be dropped. It has failed to be adopted by the majority of the population and has as a result been a waste of money. The only way it will become accepted is if they drop the dollar note and they don't seem willing to do that. Even though the note is a bigger waste...dropping one will save money.
     
  16. wcoins

    wcoins GEM-ber

    Start using the 2017 Zombucks
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  17. tdogchristy90

    tdogchristy90 Dieu et les Dames

    If im not mistaken Reagan wont be minted since carter is all Alive. Only 2 coins are set for 2016 I think...
     
  18. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    Yeah it's hard to find definitive interpretations of these laws but from all I have read over the years, Reagan will be last one (now that 2014 has started) and they'll skip Carter.

    Also, some links I have found...

    http://www.coinnews.net/coin-legislation/hr-2358-the-native-american-1-coin-act/

    http://www.coinnews.net/nativeamericandollars/2016-native-american-1-coins/

    From 2nd link...

    "The 2016 Native American $1 Coins will mark the eighth and final strike in a series of Congressionally mandated coins with new annual reverse designs emblematic of the contributions of Native Americans to the history of the United States.

    This series debuted in 2009 but continued the Sacagawea $1 Coins which had themselves started in 2000. Congress authorized the new annual reverse designs with the passage of the Native American $1 Coin Act which became Public Law 110-82 and dictated that these coins be issued until the completion of another series of strikes – the Presidential $1 Coins. After that series ends, these Native American coins will continue, but with a theme decided upon by the Secretary of the Treasury after consultation with several groups."

    Bold added by me. Again, this is just an article (just like wikipedia) and not a direct reading of the law or an opinion of anyone with any known credentials :D
     
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  19. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Yeah, sure! This is even uglier than the SBA.

    Chris
     
  20. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I've seen it explained both ways...and I honestly don't know what they are going to do. I do know that a President is legally required to have died 2 years prior to the release of his coin...but part of me wonders too if that would be changed if Carter was to pass away closer to his "expected release date."
     
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  21. jlogan

    jlogan Well-Known Member

    i think they should make a dollar-sized token for carter and include it in mint and proof sets, and sell them individually for $1 each
     
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