Spent $1000 on 5 coins today - should I CAC the PCGS ones?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by C-B-D, Apr 9, 2014.

  1. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Thinking about having these sent to CAC even though I need to find someone to submit them for me. These are from a very old collection. I bought 2 from the collection a month ago, but couldn't resist coming back for more. Should I CAC em?
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Those PCGS OGH's should be slam dunks.

    But, I don't think they CAC ANACS.
     
  4. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I'm thinking the 26-D got lowered for strike weakness and some spotty toning on the reverse. Actually a few of these have a weak strike but booming luster. I've heard that they are more merciful on strike depth these days, as compared to the OGH days. Anyone else think that used to affect grade more then than it does now?
     
  5. carboni7e

    carboni7e aka MonsterCoinz

    That 1917-D... gold bean please!

    We really need to do "group submissions" like other forums go in together on. CAC and PCGS/NGC submissions would be nice to have via a bi-yearly thread. Especially if a mod hosted it.
     
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  6. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    amazing coins. the first 1 made my jaw drop. lol
     
  7. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Here's a closer look at the 17-D, somewhat weak in areas. And I agree... going in together would be awesome!
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  8. Beautiful standing liberties! Great buys!
     
  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

  10. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I think that is a beautiful coin...and the strike isn't that bad. The head isn't fantastic...but look at the shield. I have seen so many "FH" SLQs with an almost blank shield. That is a wonderful coin.
     
  11. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    To me the weakest area is the eagle breast, but the fields on both sides are spectacular for a MS62. Do you think PCGS took strike quality into account more then than they do now? Looks like a 63 or 63+ to me, aside from the strike.
     
  12. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    Good deal and nice coins !!
     
  13. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I would agree...that area is the weakest on this coin. I still think this would be considered very well struck. It's not 100% perfectly struck, but it's nice.

    I'm not an expert when it comes to how the TPGs grade the SLQs. Looking at this coin, it is beautiful...but I do see some bag marks on the fields. I could see it going 63 though. As far as strike quality goes...it got the FH designation, so they felt it was well struck and thus that didn't hold it back. Overall, grading standards have loosened over the last several years...so this coin might get a bump but I think that PCGS rated it well stuck back then. I think what dinged this coin was the marks in the fields.
     
  14. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    I am a STRONG advocate of CAC stickering the white ANACS holders only.

    These are now obsolete and likely the most controversial era of ANACS as far as value in the market. These coins were fairly accurately graded and are trading less than PCGS and NGC and I think the beans would restore confidence in this soft market. Plus more money for CAC with a new wave of submittals.

    I see many positives from CAC evaluating these slabs, and they could still protect their integrity by limiting it to just the white holders going back to the first generation.
     
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  15. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    That '17-P is a beauty and if the pics aren't hiding anything it should get at least a 63 -FH and possibly a 64 . Nice pick up .
     
  16. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    You have to be careful with this nowadays though. Remember, even back then there were sliders being slabbed. A very large number of OGH coins have been resubmitted looking for grade bumps...I'll bet a far higher percent of the remaining OGH slabs are those sliders that might not get the bump. There was a time when they were slam dunks...but now you have to be a little careful.

    I'm not talking about these specific coins necessarily...but just as a general rule.
     
  17. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    Those are some very "nice" looking 62's. I hope they come back gold bean too!
     
  18. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    Why not CAC them all, if they don't agree, then don't bean them?
     
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  19. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    They don't want to be associated with 'sub par' companies I would imagine. The white slabs make it an easy enough cut off and this takes it back to when they were owned by the ANA, so reputable and credible even though Amos Press had them during the white slabs too.
     
  20. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    The part in bold is incorrect. There are far more small, white holder ANACS coins out there that were graded after the sale from the ANA to Amos Press than there are when ANACS was owned by the ANA. The only small, white ANACS holders that were graded during the ANA ownership have a gold hologram on the reverse with the ANA lamp of knowledge and a repeated ANA logo.

    I must add as an edit to this response that I thought you were writing that all small, white ANA slabs were from the time period when the ANA owned ANACS and this appears to be a misread on my part. Therefore, I made a mistake in my response to you.
     
  21. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    So the small white ANACS slab that has 2 golden brown ANACS logos side by side on the reverse are Amos owned ?
     
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