Can anyone tell me what happened here?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by atrox001, Jan 28, 2007.

  1. atrox001

    atrox001 Senior Member

    I was searching under the scope for die varieties on this 1967 Kennedy Half Dollar and noticed these circles. Can anyone tell me anything about them...besides being posible crop circles?

    Thank You,
    Larry Nienaber
     

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  3. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    It appears to be Post Mint to me! The circles either occurred by accident or may have been intentionally man made. The circles look like they were done with the head area of a retractable ballpoint pen.
     
  4. n_sandler4

    n_sandler4 Paul

    I disagree. I think they're planchet flaws. Just bubbles in the metal.
     
  5. atrox001

    atrox001 Senior Member

    I have another one of these circles. This one is much larger and is on a 1966 SMS Kennedy Half Dollar. Any ideas?

    Thank You
    Larry Nienaber
     

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  6. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Want to make several more? Just take a retractable ball-point pen, retract the point, put the coin on a flat surface, place the circular opening in the bottom of the pen on top of the coin, strike the top of the pen with a hammer, move on to the next one. Voila!:eek:
     
  7. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    Roy,

    I see at least that someone agrees with me! However, I did like the crop circles theory!:rolling: :rolling:
     
  8. atrox001

    atrox001 Senior Member

    The photos from the second one I sent are from an ANACS slabed, Special Mint Set half dollar. Do you really believe someone has intentionally damaged this half? That doesn't seem logical to me. Are there any serious suggestions out there?

    Larry Nienaber
     
  9. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    [​IMG]
    There's a whole bunch of illogical folks out there my friend.
    I can't speak for anyone else, but I am dead serious. :rolleyes:
     
  10. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    They are unlike any other defect I've come across. They may or may not be examples of post-strike damage.
     
  11. Captainkirk

    Captainkirk 73 Buick Riviera owner

    Just my opinion, but I think They are a planchet flaw, where a small bit of silver fell on the roll of metal while rolling the silver to the correct thickness before the planchets are cut. I have seen this effect in rolled steel.
     
  12. coinage 10

    coinage 10 New Member

    Larry,


    Looking at both coins, there is symmetry evident and something that looks similar to a marker (if I’m not mistaken) in the 1966 SMS Kennedy.The '66 validates the plausibility of a mint oriented error, not the result of "coin graffiti" - why go through the trouble?

    A.J.
     
  13. atrox001

    atrox001 Senior Member

    Yesterday I was looking through a bunch of 70D Kennedy Half Dollars under my scope, and saw a couple more examples of this defect...different sized circles in the fields. Captainkirk's idea of a planchet flaw, where a small bit of metal is rolled into the planchet material makes a lot of sence to me. Thanks for all the imput.

    Larry Nienaber
     
  14. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**


    And Spock said, "There is no logic in this theory Captain"! These so called bits of metal, first - would have to be perfectly round and, second - they would have to be made of a metal that is harder than the planchet's metal to make the impression, otherwise they would have smashed into a blob (not a perfect circle) on the surface of the coin and would have made only a minor impression into the surface.
     
  15. Captainkirk

    Captainkirk 73 Buick Riviera owner

    What if they are equal hardness, and go through many rollers to thin the metal? A blob would be flattened equally to a circular form. Of course, this remains a theory.
     
  16. atrox001

    atrox001 Senior Member

    What is begining to make some sence to me is that there are small beads of metal, different sizes, same material as the planchets, getting on the planchet sheets and are being rolled over and pressed into the planchets. What do you think?

    Larry Nienaber
     
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