2004-P Doubled Die Obverse DISCOVERY

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by jtwax, Jul 18, 2004.

  1. jtwax

    jtwax Senior Member

    Click here for an article on the exciting recent discovery of a doubled die obverse, Peace Reverse, Jefferson nickel!

    With the recent years of "single squeeze" hubbing at the Mint it is exciting to find a true hub doubled coin produced from this style of hubbing. How is it possible that an offset doubled die could occur from the single squeeze method? We may never know....
     
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  3. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    Any update from the mint regarding this?
     
  4. jtwax

    jtwax Senior Member

    Nothing yet.... :(
     
  5. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    I've talked to the gentleman who made the initial discovery. (via another internet coin forum)

    He is quite proud of his accomplishment, and rightfully so, I might add.

    Be sure to check out Billy Crawford's pics which can be accsessed via Jason's website.
     
  6. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    I have received some calls regarding this new discovery. For such a relatively small doubling, it is causing quite the stir. I can hardly wait to hear the explanation from the mint about how such an occurrence has taken place with the single squeeze. I have an employee going through our stock, but none found yet.
     
  7. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Interestingly of the two examples to be discovered so far, both were found in Florida.

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that FL would be a good place to look. ;)
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    One has to wonder if this coin will not end up like the dime previously the talk of the numismatic community.
     
  9. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Do you mean the 2004-D?
     
  10. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    The dime, the Lincoln with the wavy steps. That is why I am so interested to hear what the mint has to say.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes I mean the 2004-D. It is like Nd said - the cent and the dime both - in the beginning Potter, Wexler, Crawford, CONECA - they all said both coins were single squeeze doubled dies. But then the Mint eventually came out and said - unh uh, they are not. Well the numismatic community went along with the Mint. Even Potter changed his story.

    So I have to wonder if this nickel will be any different :confused:
     
  12. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Yes.

    LINK
     
  13. jtwax

    jtwax Senior Member

    The U.S. Mint is denying that a variety of 2004-P Jefferson, Peace Medal 5-cent coin is from a doubled die.

    "We believe the nickel doubling is caused by excessive tonnage and press tooling condition, and we see no evidence of a double [sic] die," Michael White, public information officer, said.

    ...Big suprise huh?! lol
     
  14. loro-rojo

    loro-rojo New Member

    Hey, I didnt knot that this board existed, and you guys are talking about my nickel!!!! Lol!

    Im sending the coin off to ANACS soon to get it encapsulated and labelled 'discovery piece'. Im still trying to figure out what to send them, but I think I got it.
     
  15. jody526

    jody526 New Member

    Good luck, Gabe.

    Glad you found us. :)
     
  16. jtwax

    jtwax Senior Member

    There was one in an ANACS cache that just ended today with no bids at $100. Last month one sold for $306. It's amazing how things come and go isn't it...
     
  17. jtwax

    jtwax Senior Member

    A Florida dealer has reported that he found over 200 examples of the 2004 DDO in bank rolls and has had them all certified by NGC.
     
  18. National dealer

    National dealer New Member

    Are you aware of what designation NGC placed on the holder?
     
  19. jtwax

    jtwax Senior Member

    Most likely the same as the ones that have been selling on eBay recently: 2004 Handshake Reverse DDO
     
  20. skane

    skane Senior Member

    Can you elaborate further about the dime and Lincoln you are referring to here?
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Right off the top of my head I can't. But the stories were presented in the numismatic press as I related below. I'll see if I can find them a link to them but it's been a while since they came out.
     
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