I had theses dimes at a coin show yesterday, I was told their struck with a bussiness strike die, but no ideal what kind of planchet, we know its not a bussiness, or proof planchet, if anybody knowns a dime expert, please let me known, thanks
One item I do Know is if 1964-P is a SMS strike it's 1 of less than 1000 the US Mint thinks were made by accident and released.Graded worth a good bit $$$$ 1 of cointalk member who has the Kennedy graded by Pcgs MS-67SMS pop of 1?? I think but will not sell it.but show it @ VDB coins.com
I think there are far fewer SMS strikes than 1000, more like under 50. As far as the "D" minted Roosies, I don't think Denver would have any reason to have proof planchets in 1964 or 1963.
special mint set are planchets on their own, not proof or bussiness planchets, and the sms are like sand blasted planchets, or satin planchets, and were struck with bussiness strike dies
Rick, are you confusing the satin finish coins issued beginning in 2005 with the SMS sets of '65-'67? Angelo and Bob are referring to the '64 SMS sets that were produced. Chris
1964 SMS mints set numbers of mintage could be up to 1000.If you can go Thur Coin Worlds Library and read the Decade's series that what the US Mint number that could have been minted. I think the real fact is they really do not know how many were made. Is this not a Philly 1964 Roosevelt
I know that, but some call the sms, satin coins too, heres pcgs site on them Roosevelt Dime, SP Price Changes PCGS NoDescriptionDesig6364656667686970-- Type 1, Silver, SP Price Changes 5220 Shop 1964 SMS SP + - -3,250 -3,500 -4,000 -4,250 -6,000 -- -- -- -- -
There is no difference between proof and business planchets. It's the dies and the striking process that is different.
That's because they don't know what they're talking about. The Special Mint Sets of '65-'67 were produced because there were no proof sets made for those years. The SMS sets did have proof-like attributes, but were not struck twice as was the norm for proof coins. Chris
This is an article from the PCGS website. It is from 2008 so there may be some updated material. As of today, the PCGS Population report still remains at 22. The Population from NGC is 1. 1964 “Special Mint Set” Coins Jaime Hernandez - May 13, 2008 Some of the most beautiful coins in numismatics today are also some of the most intriguing. A simple look at any of the breathtaking 1964 SMS coins reveals their special numismatic status. The special finish of 1964 SMS coins is characterized by a nice, smooth, satin-like appearance. The fields are usually well struck, very clean and tend to come without any major nicks or scratches. The edges for most 1964 SMS coins also tend to be square and sharp. The bust and legends are usually highly detailed and sharp on most examples, especially when compared to business strike coins. The surfaces are non-reflective compared to proof coins of the era, yet are not the same finish as regular-issue coins for the same year. The U.S. Mint definitely had a rough year in 1964. That was the year they introduced the Kennedy half dollar series both in MS and Proofs, including hundreds of thousands of 1964-D Peace dollars which were later melted! Most significantly, in 1964 all production of 90% silver coinage was being discontinued because of the rising price of silver. The only coins containing silver would be the Kennedy half dollars dated 1965 to 1970, but even those coins only contained 40% silver. During this time the Mint was also making plans to produce Special Mint Sets from the years 1965 to 1967. These coins were introduced in hopes of eliminating coin shortage within the nation's monetary system. Consequently, in order to deter the public from hoarding coins, the Mint produced all 1965 to 1967 Special Mint Set coins without any mintmarks. The Special Mint Sets dated 1965 to 1967 were produced instead of regular mint or proof sets for those three years. There are many different theories on why the 1964 SMS coins were produced. These coins could have been produced as prototypes for the 1965 to 1967 SMS coins. The 1964 SMS coins could have also been produced as introductory pieces, possibly even intended to include a 1964-D Peace dollar. Furthermore, it is believed these SMS coins came into existence somehow through the involvement of Eva Adams, U.S. Mint Director at the time. After Eva Adams passed away, her estate was sold off and well-recognized dealer and auctioneer Lester Merkin is believed to have bought many of the coins from her estate. Lester Merkin's collection would then be sold in a Stack's auction in the early 1990s, including some, if not all, of the known 1964 SMS coins. Recently, a complete set of these compelling coins was submitted to PCGS for grading. Viewing some of these intriguing and eye-rewarding coins is definitely one of the great benefits of having thousands of coins pass though our graders' hands every single day. Today, many experts believe there are anywhere from 20 to 50 sets in existence in all grades combined, making these coins very scarce. Many of the 1964 SMS coins could have also been lost, damaged or even tossed aside since their mysterious status was only somewhat solved by early 1993, almost 30 years after they were initially produced. Currently the PCGS Population report shows 22 Lincoln cents, 18 Jefferson nickels, 22 dimes and 28 Kennedy half dollars graded as 1964 SMS. Some of these population figures may be inflated since some of the coins may have been cracked out and resubmitted in hopes of an upgrade. However, even if the population figures were close to the actual coins in existence the supply would be extremely limited compared to their popular demand. Many collectors who are collecting the Lincoln cent series up to the Kennedy half dollar series would love to own an example of these special coins. Significantly, there are also many collectors who love to own mysterious coins with a suspenseful history behind them, and the 1964 SMS coins definitely fit this category. The 1964 SMS coins are extremely scarce, but more are believed to be out there. It is strongly recommended you purchase coins already graded by PCGS since our experts are well aware of the discernable differences in regular issue mint state or proof coins compared to the special 1964 SMS coins. Also remember that our guaranty of authenticity is the best insurance you can have when owning extremely scarce and significant coins.
As far as your two 1963-Ds, it is highly doubtful they are anything but well struck dimes. There has not been one reported SMS example.
I don't know if any of them are sms, all I know is the planchets aren't from bussiness or proof planchets
But the planchets are all the same as far as I know, like Jody said it is the striking process and the dies that are different. If you say that the planchet is somehow not a business strike or a proof planchet (when in reality they are still the same thing, only struck differently), then what do you think you have? I just see some well-struck dimes, nothing more.
planchet look like they were sandblasted, very fine, very dull looking, and better yet, potter look at this what and I'm pretty sure he knows what a 1964 Roosevelt Dime looks like
