New hoards affect market?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Bart9349, Mar 11, 2014.

  1. Bart9349

    Bart9349 Junior Member

    Forgive my ignorance on this, but I'm sure a large, newly-found hoard will effect the price of most rare coins.

    Since I known nothing about American coinage (and I have fewer than twenty American coins), could this collection from Stack's potentially affect the price of the 1909-V.D.B. penny (assuming many are "S") or is the supply so large that it couldn't possibly "move the needle"?


    Thanks in advance for your patience on this,


    guy
     
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  3. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    I doubt that 10k circulated coins of a relatively common date will have much of an effect. Now if they were all mint state, that may hurt a bit.
     
  4. Volante

    Volante Well-Known Member

    Well the mintage of 1909-(P)-VDB cents was 24 million and the mintage of 1909-S VDB cents about 500k, for a ratio of 48:1. Assuming the ratio in the "unsearched" hoard is about the same, that's around 200 S-VDB's. I doubt that would have much of an impact.
     
  5. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    I don't think such a few coins would affect the price by much . Volantes #s are probably close and since the S-VDBs were picked out of circulation and saved most probably survive today .
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yeah sometimes hoards affect the market, but sometime they have no effect at all. There are many different variables that determine which way it will go. A hoard can be 10 coins, a hoard can be 300,000 coins, or anywhere in between, it depends on what specific coin you are talking about. And sometimes a group of coins being found will be called a hoard in the press for no other reason than that's what the people who found it called it when they made their press release.
     
  7. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    So what happened with this hoard ?
     
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  8. jfreakofkorn

    jfreakofkorn Well-Known Member

    Hopefully the eye loops did nt come out for date cheque(s)
     
  9. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    All of the above. Plus, sometimes slabbed coins from a particular hoard may have an added value to some people; pay a little more for the label.
     
  10. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    Nothing, really. The hoard consisted mostly of generic, common, circulated coins. The uncirculated coins were mostly common date Morgans. The market easily absorbed a few million dollars worth of widgets. There was nothing rare, showstopping, or special about this hoard except for the size.
     
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  11. Phil's Coins

    Phil's Coins Well-Known Member

    It is like the hoard of 1964 Kennedy Half Dollars recently advertised and being listed as 1st day of issue. Go ahead and pay the $1400+ for one and wait 5 years and watch the value. You will not be happy. JMO
     
  12. St Gaudens collector

    St Gaudens collector Active Member

    If somebody found a bag of 21 Saints I'd....I'd.....

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  13. +VGO.DVCKS

    +VGO.DVCKS Well-Known Member

    ...Sorry, Guy, but it's nothing like the relative scale or, conversely, the innate historical significance of a hoard of, hmm, even AEthelred II long cross pennies. ...Here, the most a detectorist is likely to find, on a really good day, is a class ring. Not really much of a comparison, on either front.
     
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