1909 S VDB Grade???

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by LostDutchman, Mar 7, 2014.

  1. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    First impression is au details. But i'm sure you wouldn't be playing GTG on a details coin. So 56 1/2

    Okay 55
     
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  3. Numis-addict

    Numis-addict Addicted to coins

    My initial thought on it is 55, but I think I may be hard on coins in general. The more I look at it the more I think it will grade as a 58.
     
  4. Lucky Cuss

    Lucky Cuss Cobrador de Plata

    When I enlarge these outstanding photos, I can see what some of you are talking about on the obverse - just the tiniest abrasion of the high points above the ear, on the cheek, and at the tip of the beard. So maybe it goes AU, but no less than a 58. The reverse is about as good s it gets, though. If it finds its way into the MS category, it might well jump up to a 64. This might be one of those coins that, if you sent it in to different TPG's or even the same TPG at different times, you'd receive some really variable results.
     
  5. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    I think we're all pretty much on the spot on this one, Matt. I think many of us, here, too, know, this one could plausibly grade as high as MS64 for the market, if you throw off the wear many of us are seeing on "cabinet friction." It's happened. That's just market grading.
     
  6. MORGANDOLLARS65

    MORGANDOLLARS65 New Member

  7. MORGANDOLLARS65

    MORGANDOLLARS65 New Member

    Hello the coin as whole looks good the obverse and reverse-wheat area looks good, lincoln and its lines also are nice, Being into wheat cents and 1909s vdb's , i have had my share of them- No yours over all is great except for one Very Important thing,it has been cleaned and swipe some time ago, just looking at it with the naked eye Iam sure you to can see the whrils, my guess it could come back marked clean or DOA. Again just saying.
     
  8. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    This coin is wholly original and hasn't been cleaned.
     
  9. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I'm in the AU58 camp. I see what appears to be some wear on the cheek and beard. But, I'd love to see it in hand. It's a beauty.

    Matt, I have a 1909-S VDB that I"m planning on sending in for grading. I was going to use PCGS but you have chosen NGC. Any particular reason you are sending this one to NGC?
     
  10. BadThad

    BadThad Calibrated for Lincolns

    AU slider, MS-63.
     
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  11. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Just personal preference.
     
  12. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    Has your experience been they are a better choice for Lincoln cents? When I do send mine in, I want to send it to the right TPG. PCGS has historically been my default...but NGC is an excellent company. If NGC is the better choice for Lincolns, perhaps I should use them.
     
  13. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Rubs on key dates usually get overlooked don't they? I think it gets a 64.
     
  14. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    PCGS is slightly more strict on color but other than that I find them to be interchangeable on grading usually.
     
  15. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    OK...and mine is certainly a BN. So, I guess for me it doesn't really matter.
     
  16. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    My first thought was an MS65 but I'm seconding guessing myself after reading the comments from this esteemed group. It is a nice looking coin whatever the final rating.
     
  17. Weston

    Weston Well-Known Member

  18. medjoy

    medjoy Active Member

    Matt, having the coin in hand, would you share
    your thoughts on its grade?
     
  19. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I'm going 58.
     
  20. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    The suspense is killing me.................
     
  21. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    It's currently sitting at NGC waiting for it's turn. I'll let you know what happens.
     
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