beautiful modern replica??

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by YOC, Mar 4, 2014.

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Its fake, yes.....but does anyone else see the beauty in it?

  1. yes

    75.0%
  2. no

    25.0%
  1. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    Its bullion if nothing else, but I actually like it, knowing its a replica....

    DECADRACHM SYRACUSE

    Museum quality restrike replica coin.In diameter 34.1mm.

    Weight 43g. Silver 999/1000


    Obv. Head of nymph Arethusa left, four dolphins and SYPACOZION around. Signature of an engraver SVSOK below.
    Rev. Quadriga driven r. with Nike above crowning the charioteer.
    deca.JPG deca1.JPG deca2.JPG
     
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    where's the pic ?
     
  4. jaceravone

    jaceravone Member

    This thread is fake.
     
  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I voted yes because I'm a positive kind of guy.
     
  6. Ed Sims

    Ed Sims Well-Known Member

    I just had to vote no just because beauty is in the eye of the beholder and there is no coin to behold.
     
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  7. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    Haven't you guys heard of stealth technology? It's there somewhere...I guess.:D

    Bruce
     
  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Yah, fakes scare me ... "me no like"
     
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  9. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Rather than let a good thread go to waste, lets ask if there is a place for modern replicas in our hobby. They have been around for a long time. Some are good enough that they themselves get faked even if the original intent was not to deceive but to provide things to sell in museum shops or for jewelry when using a real coin would be out of the question. The first below is a copy of the Becker die Akragas with "Becker" on the edge and the more recent "copy" in the field.
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    The other two are modern dies that really are not deceptive if you know the proper style. They are made by a Czech firm Antiquanova in pot metal or silver. The silver ones are stamped with the company symbol but the cheap ones are not. The Naxos is $30 in silver and $3 in tin. Forty years ago I wore cufflinks and would have loved a set made from EID MAR denarii ($17 and $2 - prices reflect the metal used).
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    Again not deceptive to those who know the real ones, many Slavei Petrov replicas in silver alloy (not pure but from old coins I have heard) have been passed off as fakes even though they were originally sold as what they are. My set was $4 each which is about melt now. They all have the same style and fabric which makes the 1st century ones more dangerous than the Pescennius Niger which is too good metal to be real.
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    So what do you think? Is there a place for replicas of coins to serve as space fillers or jewelry?
     
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  10. sergeant

    sergeant Not a Member

    This needs to be reported.
     
  11. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    My bad..........it was very late and the picture didnt appear, but I thought it had...sorry.
    I have posted the coin (at top)...same type/company as the one Doug refers to I think....
     
  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Why? And to whom?
     
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  13. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    So is this replica likely to have some origins in a cast taken from a genuine decadrachm?
     
  14. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Possibly, if a casting was used to create a hub from which dies were struck. The coin itself looks struck, and well-struck at that: no tell-tale signs of casting to my eyes. So either the engraver had crazy extreme copying skills, or used a cast to create a hub.
     
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  15. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    The way I see it is that I will in all likely hood never have the money to purchase an actual decadrachm and I would consider purchasing a quality replica if the price is right and label it as such.

    Also, it is still good silver and I would much rather a purchase a replica such as this than some of the NCLT that the RCM produces and tosses a premium on.
     
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  16. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    I agree WB...I happen to think its a lovely well made replica. Struck as JA says and bullion too.
     
  17. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    I have asked the seller about the replica and await his/her answer...
     
  18. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    If I collected bullion, the coin would interest me greatly, but only if it could be had for a small premium over spot. I doubt that would be the case. As a collector of ancient coins, replicas do not interest me in the least, barring contemporary counterfeits and imitative issues.
     
  19. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    At 43g of .999 silver the spot value is about £25. The replica is about £80 though!
     
  20. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I'm not surprised. It's very well-crafted, I'll say that. But it isn't ancient.
     
  21. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    It is like any silver 'artistic' non circulating coin that the Royal Canadian Mint comes out with. It gains a premium for having a cool design (in this case a really cool design) so they sell it for 4x spot and everyone eats it up!
     
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