1923s Cent Struck Through Grease Value

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Clutchy, Feb 26, 2014.

  1. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    I dont know if this coin would have a premium or be considered damage when it comes to value. I have a 4 roll lot that a friend was generous enough to allow me to determine the value of the coins in hand so i could make a fair offer. Only 68 common dates in this lot, would have been too much to ask for pics. IMO, the reverse would grade around a F12, and the obverse would looks to be about the same grade but im not sure. Whats your thought on this? Thanks
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  3. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    its been clean 1 , 2 struck through leave a definite mark on the reverse and im not seeing it ... might be a worn planchett
     
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  4. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Filled dies, or struck through grease, do not leave any evidence on the opposing side. My guess is that this is simply a well circulated coin that was struck on a worn die. Most coins struck in San Francisco in 1923 were mushy and struck by worn dies.
     
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  5. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    and the 1923 was among the worst. However, I think this one is some of both, but mostly dies.
     
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  6. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    Most worn dies I've seen have about the same amount of wear on both sides. That reverse looks a lot crisper in detail than the obverse to me. The egg shaped head and the bubble in the middle of the field, away from all devices is a worn die element I've never seen before. To me, I can't see how they can miss the heat treatment on the obverse die that much. I'm new to collecting, a little over a year, so obviously I havent seen it all. Does the mint replace dies as a set or would run a used die with a new die?
     
  7. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Hmmm? Take a look at the 1922's.
     
  8. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    I thought the weak reverse was a specific die set? I have a 22d and it's really a strong reverse
     
  9. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    Maybe it's because I've never seen a mint state coin with seriously worn die on one side.
     
  10. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Your 1922 strong reverse looked just about like that 1923-S even when it was unc.
     
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  11. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    See. This is why I like you guys. Good teachers. Thanks.
     
  12. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    1922d.png
    Btw, here is my 22d
     
  13. Clutchy

    Clutchy Well-Known Member

    Ok. Worn out die. This coin is probably ungradable, but if you to give it a number, would F12 be far off? I just need a starting point to make an offer on it.
     
  14. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I would tend to go with 10 and it might well grade.
     
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