[ancients] Allectus's galley

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by zumbly, Feb 27, 2014.

  1. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Here's another galley coin that just arrived today and one more to check off the ol' want list. I like the portrait, love the galley and the deep green patina, and am tickled by the fact that there's only one lonely oarsman on deck.

    Again, I'm using CNG's photo. I haven't been able to take one as good, and theirs just captures the coin in hand perfectly.

    Please post your Allectus coins! I know Steve has a really nice one with the same provenance from the 'C' mint. Simon Shipp really collected a boatload of these galley types, eh.

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    BRITANNIC EMPIRE
    ALLECTUS

    Quinarius (2.9g, 20mm)
    Londinium (London) mint, 293 - 296 AD.
    RIC V 55; Rogiet 1017; Burnett, Coinage 111.
    O: IMP C ALLECTVS P F AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right.
    R: VIRTVS AVG, galley with mast rowing left, waves below; QL in ex.
    Ex Simon Shipp Collection
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Dont have him, too expensive, but nice buy!
     
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  4. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    What a great coin you picked up Zumbly, details and color awesome...
     
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  5. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    That's an interesting coin, I love usurpers.:)
     
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  6. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Another emperor I don't have yet. Been looking for a decent one to appear.

    Nice coin again, zumbly.
     
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  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Guess the rest of the sailors are on shore leave.

    He does look lonely, doesn't he?
     
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Very nice Z. In good condition, these don't come cheap nor are they easy to find. Here, once again, is my poor example of this coin:
    Allectus1_opt.jpg
    ALLECTUS Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: IMP C ALLECTVS P F AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right
    REVERSE: VIRTVS AVG, galley rowing left, QC in ex.
    Struck at Camulodunum 293-6 AD
    1.2g, 16mm
    RIC 128
     
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  9. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    Was this direct from Simon (Denant) or from auction Zumbly?
    I bought an uncleaned one the other day and I am cleaning it as we speak.....may take another week or so though.
     
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  10. jfreakofkorn

    jfreakofkorn Well-Known Member

    the more i view these older mintage, the more im interested in them ...
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The Pax is a full sized antoninianus.
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    I have more sailors on deck.
     
  12. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    YOC - I belive this one came from CNG. Simon appears to have consigned a large portion of his personal collection them. It is where I got my Hadrian denarius from his collection.
     
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  13. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    Not sure if he ever had a collection.....he is a dealer, through and through as far as I know.
     
  14. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    I would say he did have a collection just based on the enormous amount of galley coins he had. Even if they were technically 'for sale' he definitely was attracted to that type of reverse.
     
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  15. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    Dealers buy job lots and disclaimed or part hoards,.....I know Simon, he is not a collector.
     
  16. Whizb4ng

    Whizb4ng HIC SVNT DRACONES

    I will take your word for it since I have never met him. All I see is that on CNG there are ~205 coins, each with a galley or boat of some kind on them, with his name attached as provenance. I made an assumption based on that.

    I kind of wish he was a collector just because I find it entertaining that someone with the last name Shipp collects ship reverses.

    Edit: I should also add that I assumed because they list it as the Simon Shipp collection
     
  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Wow => that's a super example, Z-dawg!! (congrats on a fantastic pick-up!!)

    Ummm, I have a pretty sweet hombre myself ...

    Allectus. Romano-British Emperor, AE Quinarius
    “C” mint
    AD 293-296
    Diameter: 19 mm
    Weight: 2.72 grams
    Obverse: Radiate and cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: Galley left, with mast; waves below; QC
    Reference: RIC V 124; Rogiet 1027; Burnett, Coinage 1027
    Othere: 6h … black patina, minor deposits




    Allectus a.jpg Allectus b.jpg
     
  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    What is the difference between a collection and dealer stock. I know more than one dealer that prices coins with no intention of selling but will if someone is willing to pay the price. In return this collector/dealer can set up at shows and be offered coins he might want by wholesalers and heirs to grandpa's collection. It is a different take on the hobby.
     
  19. YOC

    YOC Well-Known Member

    I see where you are coming from......I have seen such 'dealers'
    Simon moves his stock on fast........spoke to him last week, re.buying/selling.
     
  20. muhab

    muhab Member

    one word for you ( fake )
     
  21. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Interesting. I would be surprised too if this wasn't his personal collection. As Whiz mentioned, CNG has been offering a huge number of his coins all with some type of ship on them. In any case, you may very well be right, but it's still amusing to me to have a nice ship coin from "the Simon Shipp collection". :)
     
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