Guess the Grade: Standing Liberty Quarter Type 1

This one is pretty straightforward. I just want to see the general opinion of this coin and see if its been overgraded or undergraded.

When you reply with a guess please tell me why you see it at that particular grade. Oh and this coin is NOT a full head example, so no trickery involved with the choices, trying to keep this one simple.

 

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I'm going 64 because I don't see any rub and there are no marks/dings that I can see, but the luster is slightly muted.

It may not be full head, but it's real close.

 

I went with MS 63. I don't see any wear on it but the coin doesn't have quite the luster I would expect from a 64. Could be the photo.

 

Well, the luster is there and it is nice, but it is also muted. So very good eye to picking up on that.

With that said, the Type 1 SLQ's exhibited a mostly satin surface and luster, so I am wondering if that may be the case here. Bowers mentions it in one of his books about the issue of these having that satiny luster and I am wondering if thats the problem with this coins luster versus a similar coin that has been dipped. Of course I have no way of knowing for sure, but I agree with this coin as a 63 borderline 64.

After a few more guesses I will reveal the grade, which will probably make everyone go 'huh?!?'

 

MS-65 ... reasoning...

I believe on this coin the head does not have to be full as a result of the minting process. Otherwise, the coin looks amazing for my tastes.

 

This is one of those coins that I wish I could see in hand to find out what is going on, especially with the toning and how it flows across the coin. The eagle's breast and neck seem to be poorly defined which is in keeping with the non full head as that hairline didn't strike up all the way. Other than that the shield appears to be very well struck and the luster almost frosty underneath the toning. I am going to go out and call it either AU-58 or MS-63, just because I can't tell if it is toning or a luster break on the right knee and the eagle's leading edge of the wing.

 

It's a very nice coin. The rivets are bold and most are full as I can tell from the picture. Not a full head, from what I can see, [the picture, I could not enlarge enough to see more details] but a good strike of this series of type 1. The knee, and leg is too flat. The eagle's breast is also too flat, and the wing edges. MS 65

 

I think it's very close to this one, maybe even better...

 

This coin is AU, AU, AU all day, every day. There is obvious wear all the way down Ms. Liberty's right (viewer's left) leg. This is more than the minimal wear associated with an AU58 and I would choose AU55.

 

I can't see it Tom. Is there any way you can be a little more detailed?

And we are talking about the first coin I posted, correct?

 

What's the second coin you posted? The one I posted is MS-65 all day long. Yours is also pretty amazing.

 

The coin has a flat line of wear starting at mid-thigh and running all the way down the shin bone to the foot. This is the shelf like area just between the knee and the bottom of the dress fabric. It is also the only coin that I can see you have posted i this thread.

 

If you read Toms first comment it is directly below Torontokuba's picture of the 65 and he says 'this coin'. So my question was, does 'this coin' refer to TK's coin posted directly above Toms response, or did 'this coin' mean the original coin I posted in the thread. Just a bit confusing, it's clear now.

So that shelf on the leg wouldn't be related to the striking of the coin. It is definitely due to wear? How could there be that much wear on that part of the coin but no signs of that much wear on the reverse or elsewhere on the obverse?

To me that would need a lot of friction to take it from how TK's coin looks to as flat as mine and I would just like some more signs to look for on the front and back of my coin that would indicate that much wear.

 

The coin posted by torontokuba is mint state. The coin posted in the first post is AU. The knee is the highest point on the obverse and shows wear first.

 

I have an AU 53 from NGC, if yours is AU 55, I'll be happy to swap and pay a few dollars difference. The AU 53 has a leg as flat as a board. This coin is unique in its wear and what looks like F - VF gets an XF grade. I guess it's the high points on the coin design that wear quickly. I think the first photo in this thread has the light playing tricks on people. It should be a mid MS grade.

How much longer before the reveal?

 

I understand all of that.

What I am asking is if a similar coin could exhibit that shelf from poor striking. Yes? or No?

Understand I do not have the coin in hand, Greg has them. So I am asking questions and trying to learn something. I know about high points, friction, and wear, I can't check that right now. So I am simply asking a follow up question from what I am seeing and thinking.

 

Alright next post I promise

 

I can't say that I have seen an MS SLQ with that much of a flat leg.

 

She is an MS-61

 

Old ANACS slab. Modern day practices are less strict. I vote undergraded. It really is a nice coin. What was the damage $$$?