Incuse-punch coins => Let's see 'em!!

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  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    To my way of seeing it, 'punch' should be reserved for reverses without design like the original rough punches shown on the first three coins. When you add letters and other pictorial elements, it becomes a reverse type. They may be in an incuse square or be an incuse design but they are not punches as I would use the term.
     
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  3. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    LESBOS, and to think I always thought that meant something else. :D
     
  4. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Lesbos was the home of the poet Sappho whose works became associated with 'something else' in the 19th century. What was considered normal in 600BC and what was normal in 1880 AD is rather different.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sappho
     
  5. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => yah, you're right ... I guess I should have merely called the thread "archaic incuse coins" rather than "incuse punch coins" (hey, ya caught me!!)

    ;)
     
  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

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    Thrace, Chersonesos
    400-350 BC

    AR hemidrachm, 13mm, 2.3gm
    Obv: forepart of a lion right, head reverted
    Rev: quadripartite; incuse; dot AΓ (ligate) and pentagram in opposing depressions
    Ref: ? Haven't found this one yet in any online resources
     
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  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

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    THRACE. Byzantion
    340-320 BC

    AR siglos, 17 mm, 5.0 gm
    Obv: Heifer standing left on dolphin swimming to left
    Rev: Incuse mill-sail pattern
    Ref: SNG BM Black Sea 21
    Interesting and beautiful tobacco/rose toning
     
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  9. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

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    ARGOLIS, Argos
    330-270 BC

    AR Triobol or Hemidrachm, 14mm, 2.4 g
    Obv: forepart of wolf left, retrograde Σ above
    Rev: large A; Π–Ρ above, club below; all within shallow incuse square
    Ref: BCD Peloponnesos 1083.3; HGC 5, 667
    ex Dr. Georgios I. Michael Collection
    current TIF Pink Floyd Animals collection, track 2, "Dogs"
     
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  10. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

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    ARGOLIS, Argos
    330-270 BC

    AR Triobol or Hemidrachm, 13mm, 2.5 g
    Obv: forepart of wolf left
    Rev: Large A; triskeles below; all within shallow incuse square
    Ref: BCD Peloponnesos 1075.2; HGC 5, 667
    ex Dr. Georgios I. Michael Collection
    current TIF Pink Floyd Animals collection, track 2, "Dogs"
     
  11. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

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    IONIA, Samos. 510-500 BC
    AR drachm, 13.7 mm, 3.2 gm
    Obv: forepart of winged boar left
    Rev: facing lion scalp with dotted square, within incuse square
    Ref: SNG Cop 1673
    current TIF Pink Floyd Animals collection; track 5, "Pigs on the Wing, Part II"
     
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  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

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    IONIA, Klazomenai
    499-494 BC

    AR diobol, 10 mm, 1.0 gm
    Obv: forepart of winged boar right
    Rev: quadripartite incuse square, K
    Ref: SNG München 451
    current TIF Pink Floyd Animals collection; track 1, "Pigs on the Wing, Part I"
     
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  13. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

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    IONIA, Klazomenai
    499-494 BC

    AR diobol, 9mm, 1.2 g
    Obv: forepart of winged boar left
    Rev: incuse square
    Ref: Cf. BMC 9-10 (drachm); cf. Traité I 488 (drachm). VF, toned, porous. Very rare with boar left, apparently unpublished as a diobol
    ex Daniel Koppersmith Collection. Ex Classical Numismatic Group Electronic Auction 256 (25 May 2011), lot 123.
    current TIF Pink Floyd Animals collection, track 1, "Pigs on the Wing, Part I"
     
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  14. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

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    CARIA, Mylasa
    450-400 BC

    AR hemiobol, 7 x 9 mm, 0.5 gm
    Obv: facing forepart of lion
    Rev: scorpion within incuse square
    Ref: SNG von Aulock 7803; Klein 429 (Milet)
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    So yeah, I've got a few incuse punch types :D I've got more but they're not yet loaded to my website. Sure is easier posting coins to CT from my new website, compared to digging through my hard drive and looking for the auction bookmark!
     
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  15. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Very nice coins, TIF!
     
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  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Well played => super-cool coins and great photos, Coin-Princess!!
     
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  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Oh yeah, I forgot my poor lil' Lion & Scorpion (thanks TIF)



    lion scorpion aa.jpg lion scorpion bb.jpg
     
  18. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Between this
    and this
    I much prefer the second title :D
     
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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Well, I'll try not to toss-in any barnyard animal names whenever I'm referring to Your Royal Coin-Highness, okay?


    ;)

    ... oh, but here is my far less impressive Flyin' Pig & Lion incuse (sadly, my pig certainly doesn't come-across as a real Flyin' Ace, does he?!!)


    boar & lion a.jpg boar & lion b.jpg
     
  20. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Perhaps because it's not a winged boar, just a regular terrestrial boar. ;)

    And isn't the whole thing excuse in relief, rather than incuse?
     
  21. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    => AHA!! ... well, that certainly explains why my poor pig keeps getting injured when he jumps outta the plane with all of his winged buddies!!

    ... according to my notes/description, the Lion is apparently in an incuse square (sadly, my flan is a bit too tight to show the full-effect ... which I'm sure is the reasoning for me "not" posting this example way-back-when, last year)
     
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