Any good books on Mexican Un Pesos?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by treylxapi47, Feb 12, 2014.

  1. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Does anyone know of any reference books for Mexican coinage? I collect Un Pesos from 1918-1945 and would like to do some in depth reading on this series.

    Anybody have any information to share?
     
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  3. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

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  4. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Yea that looks like a must have book for me. Mexican is one of my other major focuses at the moment and I really enjoy a few of their coins and appreciate the related history.

    Right now I am working on a set of the Un Pesos I described above, but there are some the other designs I am quite fond of

    The Cabalito pesos and Cuauhtemoc 5 pesos are some beautiful coins and those Dos pesos that are the same design for the Libertad are good ones too.

    I can't believe I have to wait until June for that book though.
     
  5. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Also, who is Don and what is his site? Is it a reference site or does he sell coins?
     
  6. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector


    OMG! He is the source for Mexico coinage. Both reference and yes, I have purchase coins from him. You need to visit his site. Good people.

    http://donbailey-mexico.com/index.shtml
     
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  7. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    For the "mexican Redbook" try A guidebook of Mexicaan coins by Buttrey and Hubbard.
    http://www.amazon.com/Guidebook-Mexican-Coins-1822-Date/dp/0873411080

    For revolutionay ( 1913-1917) Mexican Revolutionary Coinage by Guthrie and Bothamley.
    http://www.amazon.com/Mexican-revolutionary-coinage-1913-1917-collection/dp/B0006CQQ5A

    For grading "Condition Grading of Mexico's Modern Coins ( up to 1963 :) ) ed. H.S. Ulan.
    http://www.amazon.com/Mexican-revolutionary-coinage-1913-1917-collection/dp/B0006CQQ5A

    The last one is rather costly for the # pages . I have used all 3 .
     
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  8. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    I just located a guide book on the Mexican and my gut told me that was the book to go after. I will probably end up with that one and the new one as my main references.

    Thanks for the tips guys.
     
  9. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    I have copies of Hookneck by Hubbard and O'Harrow as well as The Columnarios of Central and South America by Gilboy. I like them both.
     
  10. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    Got a reply back this morning from Don Bailey. The book is finished and in the process of being printed. It will be available on his site.

    http://donbailey-mexico.com/index.shtml

    Don was nice enough to put me on the list to get an autograph copy when available in late July.
     
  11. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Late July? How is Walmart able to ship them before the author on 6/28?

    The things that make you go, hmm.
     
  12. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    Walmart says late June, the author says late July. One is right, one is wrong, both might be right. Maybe Walmart has more buying power from the publisher and gets earlier distribution. I've been waiting for this book since last November, another month isn't going to matter.
     
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  13. xlrcable

    xlrcable Active Member

    Am I the only one who has trouble with the Don Bailey web site? For me the menus pop up in the wrong place and disappear when you chase after them with the mouse. I also e-mailed them a while back and didn't get a response, and had about concluded they were out of business. Serves me right for not just picking up the phone.
     
  14. xlrcable

    xlrcable Active Member

    ...oop. Just tried with a different browser (Firefox) and it works fine.
     
  15. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Firefox works? I'll try that bext
     
  16. xlrcable

    xlrcable Active Member

    It's better in Firefox, but I'm still wondering if this site is supposed to be functional. For example, under Information/Announcements: "The 2010 Libertads have arrived."
     
  17. stoster38

    stoster38 Member

    Looks like an interesting book. I wonder if there will be an iBooks version so I can have it on my iPad. If not I'm still going to get it :)
     
  18. xlrcable

    xlrcable Active Member

    Treylxapi, I went a little off-topic there, but on the original subject I wanted to mention that I also like the 1918-45 pesos and have thought of doing a set myself. (Right now I'm on the copper pyramid 20 centavos - a sentimental project because I collected them as a kid.)

    I have a theory that because modern Mexican coins are relatively thinly traded, their pricing tends to conform to Krause, simply because people don't have much else to go on. I'm curious whether others would agree with that. On the other hand, on eBay lately I've noticed several sellers with those pesos for unusually high minimum bids, and some of those were being bid up. Of course it's easy to look at eBay for a couple of days and jump to the conclusion that a trend is in progress, when it's really just random variation. But if there's about to be a general rush into Mexican moderns, I want someone to warn me - and maybe the Baileys' new book is a sign... ;)
     
  19. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    Collecting Mexico's coins are becoming more and more popular IMO. I have been focusing on them for over a year and find that you can find a lot of un-circulated coins at prices close to Krause, but not always. There are a lot of one year types that tend to be elusive. Like anything else you have to do your research and check several sources. Some coins you may not go after the Unc.s. It depends on you goals. For example the 1918-45 peso you mentioned. The 1918 is listed at $1350 for an unc. in Krause. I picked up a very nice VF at $45. The 1943 list for $15 in Krause and I was able to find one in unc for $12. Since I am a type collector, these fit my goals. Since my set is complete, I am working to collect one coin from each of the mints during the Revolutionary period. I have set fine as a minimum for these coins. The prices are no where close to Krause in the real world so I am having to do more research to determine what the real prices are.

    You could do a very nice date set on the 20 Centavos in unc without going much over Krause values. 1951,1955, and 1959 will be the challenge. I just picked up an unc 1951 for $4o. This coin list for $100 in Krause. It has a small rim ding, but it was $60 cheaper. My goal is to capture as many as possible in BU.

    Good hunting.
     
  20. xlrcable

    xlrcable Active Member

    One of the always-interesting things about the market is that the prices of some coins seem to make a linear progression across grades, while others fall off a cliff below BU. As you say, the 20 centavos are a good example of the latter: you can spare yourself a lot of pain on the key dates by making very small compromises. (I know some collectors would say that the whole point is not to make those compromises; financially it's my good fortune not to be one of them.)

    I'm a type collector too and I kind of enjoy the ironies that go with it. The Caballito is "hard" in the sense of "expensive," but it's easy to find and you can take your pick once you've decided on a budget. It was much harder to find the tiny one centavo from the early 1970s. The one that's given me fits for years now is the septagonal Hidalgo 10 pesos from the 70s: they're everywhere but every last one looks like roadkill.
     
  21. treylxapi47

    treylxapi47 Well-Known Member Dealer

    Any updates on this book? I just tried checking the Don Bailey website and walmart and couldnt find anything
     
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