Cleaned, polished, or prooflike?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by sonlarson, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    I picked up this 1978 S Morgan for a little over melt about a year and a half ago. I am in the process of itemizing everything in my SDB and took a little closer look.

    It doesn't appear to me to have been cleaned but it has a mirror surface in the fields. I can stand it up on edge and see about 6-7 inches of print in the coin. I would like to say the coin is MS but I think I can see a bit of wear in the hair. The eagles breast seems weak. I can't seem to get a photo showing the mirrored fields. What are your thoughts? If it is PL, how would you grade the coin?
    Thanks, Mike

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    Last edited: Feb 7, 2014
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  3. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    The lines moving in different directions signals it has been cleaned.
     
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  4. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    cleaned, maybe also polished
     
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  5. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Can't tell from the photos........hairlines present though.
     
  6. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    It would be impossible to say PL or DMPL from photos online. Only having the coin in hand would determine that by holding the coin by it's edge at the end of a ruler. If you can clearly see the reflection from 2" -4" in the fields on both sides, it would be a PL.

    With that being said, I have to agree with the others, this has the appearance of having been cleaned.
     
  7. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    First photo was taken while still inside of capsule. Don't know it it will appear different but this is out of plastic.

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  8. skbrooks1369

    skbrooks1369 Active Member

    I vote cleaned and polished (not heavily).
     
  9. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    I did the ruler, I can easily read the 2 and see about 3 or 4". My first thoughts were that it had been polished, but the fields appear too clear to me. I'll take to my trusted LCD and get a professional eyeball on it. It does have nice toning in my opinion. I had picked it from a Morgan dollar Dansco along with 2 others.
     
  10. Sean the Coin Collector

    Sean the Coin Collector Active Member

    i agree cleaned with an older light polishing !!
     
  11. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    buffed with a car polisher
     
  12. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    You mean an 1878, polished with neutral Kiwi shoe polish for a spit shine. ;)
     
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  13. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Cleaned and polished. A coin that has been ruined.
     
  14. Amanda Varner

    Amanda Varner Well-Known Member

    Agree with everyone else -- cleaned and polished.

    Real proof like Morgans have a very visually distinct difference between the design and devices of Miss Liberty and the field surrounding her. She's frosty, fields "black".

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  15. sonlarson

    sonlarson World Silver Collector

    Looks like this is a remnant from the "good ole days" when everyone thought coins should be clean and shiny. Only paid melt for it so I'm OK. Except I paid melt about 2 years ago when melt was closer to $30. Now it just needs to keep on toning.
     
  16. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    True PL coins have that "mirror" look, and show the cameo contrast to a degree. DMPL coins have even more of that contrast, and more reflectivity in the mirrors. Polished coins look bright, but flat and dead 85dpl rev.jpg 85o dpl.jpg 1881o rev.jpg 1881o.jpg
     
  17. e30kgk

    e30kgk Member

    Definitely cleaned from the scratches all over the fields.
     
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