The future of toned coins

When will our understanding of chemistry get to the point when we can artificially tone coins that can not be differentiated from our normal toned coins? Does anyone factor this in when deciding what coins to buy?


Coin pic for my thread

For example this coin would drop so far down without toning from what I paid it would be underwater for at least 30 years

 

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Toning is a market thing as far as I can tell.

 

From what I heard , they (certain coin doctors) can already tone coins pretty convincingly .
We mostly notice the obvious hack jobs from some wannabe coin docs . BTW nice Booker T.

 

i personally abhor interfering with the actual coin hence i only buy Proof or Specimen uncirculated 2 oz Silver Kokaburras with Gold Privy inserts. ve seen videoes of counterfeit one ounce silver coins and reason chinese do this is because they think they can hide in large mintages... well i for one wont play the chinese game. stuff one oz coins.

 

We are already at the point that everyone including the TPG's can't agree.

 

Very true I see some coins labeled qc that I believe in and others that are cleanly slabbed I question I guess it just depends on the day and you can easily "naturally" tone coins it just takes time just put them in a Manila envelope or a cardboard album if you want that pretty edge toning for 10-20 years and see the result

 

And in full disclosure I've bought a couple coins labeled qc that were otherwise nice coins cracked them out put them in a Manila envelope and will wait a few years until they appear more "market acceptable" then I'll send them back in if they grade clean I'll get a nice return on my investment

 

Understanding of chemistry has already goten far beyond that point. It's a risk you have to take when buying coins.

 

To each their own.

I actually will pay a premium for coins that are NOT toned. And if I can't find such a coin, I'll buy a toned one and clean it.

 

I think this is one of those trend things. For many years, toned coins were not considered desirable...even toned coins with beautiful colors. Currently, they are hugely popular with people paying large premiums for them. I wonder if this trend will eventually revert (and then eventually revert again...back and forth). It seems that the old always becomes new again.

 

Here's your answer, the future of toned coins doesn't sound good.

 

Me I like toned coins as I primarily collect early coins yes I have some blast white Morgan's and I like the mirror like dpl ones intoned but a circulated draped bust in shiny blast white looks just plain wrong I love the gunmetal grey of uncleaned early silver and love even more the colorful toning of uncirculated early silver

 

It's a market grade thing.

 

Yes.

This is more along the lines of what I meant...but the coffee wasn't working yet.

 

I see big premiums 3X and up for coins today. I haven't been collecting very long, so what were the premiums during the crazy periods? I think some of the premiums paid today are crazy, so I'm very interested to hear your feedback.

 

It comes down the "market acceptability" more than anything. If it doesn't meet the criteria for a certain look, none of the major TPGs will slab it. If it appears to have been tampered with and it has an unnatural look, collectors will reject it.

 

No, I don't factor this possibility in when I buy coins that I find attractive. If they are certified as authentic and market acceptable, then that is good enough for me.

 

Id say the future is bleak. I have been seeing toned coin popularity trending down recently.