Need ID of these two ancients

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  1. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Hi. Can you please assist me in identifying these 2 coins though I suspect they are really genuine. Greko O 001.jpg Greko R 001.jpg Roma O 001.jpg Roma R 001.jpg
     
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  3. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I know very little about ancient coins so I am not the best person to provide information on these two coins. That being said, the top one looks like it might have Zeus or some Wildman on the obverse & possibly Zeus enthroned on the reverse. The experts here will probably need to know what the weight & dimension of your coin.

    The bottom coin may have the personification of Cons(tantinople) on the obverse and may have the wolf suckling the two infants (Romulus & Remus) of Rome. There are some ancient coins that commemorate the move of the capital to Constantinople & the coins have this kind of design but I just don't recognize your exact coin. Again, the experts will probably want to know the weight & dimension.
     
  4. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    I'm sorry that nobody has replied to your questions yet. Here is a link to Forum's website:

    http://www.romancoin.info/#FORVMS Roman Coin Legend Search

    At this particular link you can input the legends from your second coin (Bronze AE Roman coin) & quickly find more information about it. Surf around this Forum website and the following Wildwinds website & you can probably identify both coins.

    http://www.wildwinds.com/

    Please let me know how you make out.
     
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  5. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The first is a pseud0-autonomous issue of Antioch, Syria, under Roman rule, mid 1st-century BC.

    Obv.: Laureate head of Zeus right.
    Rev.: ΑΝΤΙΟΧΕΩΝ ΤΗΣ ΜΗΤΡΟΠΟΛΕΩΣ, Zeus enthroned left, Nike in right presenting wreath, long scepter vertical behind in left.

    The weight and diameter would pinpoint a reference.
     
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  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The second appears to be a provincial issue of Elagabalus, 218-222 AD from Aelia Capitolina, but I can't make out enough detail to be certain. The dimensions and better pics would help.

    Could also be a Macrinus from Laodicea ad Mare, but the portrait looks like Elagabalus, and I can't make out the obverse inscription.
     
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  7. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    My guess on the second one is Macrinus from Laodicea ad mare. gi1570bb1687.jpg
     
  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Caracalla issued the same type as well...

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  9. vlaha

    vlaha Respect. The. Hat.

    I like this one better, the mother's head looks like a giraffe.:rolleyes:
     
  10. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Thanks really for your concern.The top coin of Zeus is oval shaped and weighs 9.62 g. Diameter is 25 millimeters at length and 21 mm. at width. The bottom coin is convexe and weighs 10.92 g. Diameter is 28 mm - 27mm.
    Charles
     
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  11. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    In reply to John Antony showing his Caracalla coin, I can read clearly on the reverse : Antoninus Pius. By you way, could you guess if my two coins are genuine?
    Charles
     
  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    They look genuine, but again, better pics would help. The Caracalla isn't mine, btw - I'm just posting another example of the provincial she-wolf types that might match yours.
     
  13. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I trust everyone realizes that Antoninus Pius is Caracalla, one of several rulers that used the name. There are no coins inscribed Caracalla. The face on the OP coin is Macrinus and I can make out IMPMOPSE which is also Macrinus. This wolf type was used by several rulers and is common in poor condition.
     
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  14. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Macrinus it is then. Your eyes are better than mine, Doug.
     
  15. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Hi. I just received a third coin that looks in poor condition. It weighs 17.31 g. Diameter is 32 - 34 millimeters since it is off- centered . I suspect it is genuine Roman O 001.jpg Roman R 002.jpg
     
  16. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Huh ... nope, I never realized that lil' fact (I guess I should try to read-up on this new fact)

    => geesh, just when I start to think that I'm catching-on to this ancient stuff, I get side-swiped by a random-comment and realize that I still don't have a clue!! (*sigh*)

    :confused:
     
  17. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    elegaballus or carcalla?
     
  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

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