Does anyone know if the Kelantanese silver Dirham has been issued?

Does anyone know if the Kelantanese silver Dirham has been issued? We all know that the gold 1/4,1/2,& 1 Dinar coins have been issued? If you have any information,please let us know.

Aidan.

 

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Aidan,

Kelantan is a state in northern Malasia. It was colonised by the Javanese back in the 1300's and was a vassal state of Thailand (previously known as `Siam') between 1780 and 1909. Hope that information proves to be of some value you to you in relation to your request for information.

I should also perhaps mention that William of Orange had no connection with Kelantan, at least not as far as i'm aware.

Ian

 

Ian,I am very well aware of Kelantan's history.Kelantan's first coins as part of the British Commonwealth were issued last year.They are the gold coins that caused a bit of controversy.

Aidan.

 

You must know your history very well indeed Aidan. Speaking about the Javanese, here's a nice 1/2 stuiver from Java (Kingdom of Holland). These Dutch keep on popping up everywhere.

 

Ian,I have got an 1815 British Occupation of Java 1 Stiver,which is actually quite a rare coin.

Can you please stop mentioning about King Billy in every thread in relation to New Zealand or the Malayan States? If you want to mention King Billy,you should create a separate section on his English,Irish,& Scots coins.

Aidan.

 

i thought this was a boxing match King billy sounds like a boxer just kidding

 

Aidan. Why start a thread on English, Irish and Scots coins in connection with Oor Wullie? After all, he first appeared (portrait) on coins made specifically for the French feudal state of Orange did he not? Strangely enough, that's where he got his name from (ie William of Orange). I'm not so well up on the coinage of Nassau, but he might have appeared on coinage of Nassau as well, given that his actual house was Orange-Nassau. Have you any coins from either Orange or Nassau with his name or portrait on them? I'm surprised that you missed out the coins of Orange when you suggested having a separate thread.

PS. Yes the British East India Company 1815 Java stiver is a nice coin. I think you should invest in a camera or a scanner though or borrow a friends so you can start imaging your coins.

 

Too right,Doug.Ian's just being a silly Scotsman,but I can understand where he is coming from.I still haven't had my question about the Kelatanese coins.I was hoping that Sterling would have popped on board.

I don't think King Billy appeared on any coins of Orange,as he was the Stadhouder (or 'Stadholder' in English) of the Netherlands from around 1650 until 1702.The Ductch coins don't have either his name or title,as Dutch coinage was the prerogative of the individual provinces.

Aidan.

 

Thanks for pointing that out,Doug.What 'KM' number(s) are those Dutch coins?

Aidan.

 

What a silly billy statement.

Here's two examples of the smallest denomination from his period in office in Orange. Copper `denier tournois' (as opposed to its bigger brother the `double tournois'). My examples are about as good as they come for this denomination. The first is dated 1652, the second is dated 1654 and the portrait is a bit better, but you might struggle to see the dates......and much else. This must be an entirely new vista for you. Now that you know that they exist, you can start collecting coins of his from his home territory. You may want to keep your eyes open on ebay too. The silver 1/12th ecu from Orange with his portrait on it comes up fairly regularly, and usually in fine to VF condition (and usually within the $60 - $80 range).

 

dd:I might be wrong, but I seem to recall Aidan saying in some other thread that he didn't have copies of Krause (?)

I could have given him the KM numbers for the coinage of Orange but given the foregoing it seemed to me to be a pretty pointless exercise.