how do premiums for fancy numbers work?

Discussion in 'Paper Money' started by AgCuAu, Dec 14, 2013.

  1. AgCuAu

    AgCuAu Member

    I was wondering how the hierarchy works when it comes to the varieties of fancy numbers. I believe the solid numbers come first, but what comes after that and how are the premiums as a percentage over FV decided by collectors? would offering more than just one example together warrant an increase in overall premiums? I've got 2 notes I want to sell, both of which are radars with the only difference being their first and last numbers and I think that doesn't happen often. but am I thinking correctly, as a collector/seller?
     
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if the first and last numbers do not match, they would not be considered a radar note.

    Chris
     
  4. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    Yes, you're right Chris - some examples of RADAR notes I have found in circulation are F21922912P and JL25922952B. I've found a couple that were close, but not quite RADARs...
     
  5. clayirving

    clayirving Supporter**

    How about a "mirror radar"?

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    Serial numbers: 77771460 06417777
     
  6. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    Those are interesting Clay. I haven't read or found anything combining two notes to make up a pair like that. No doubt it is a difficult search to find them. Have you had any offers which could indicate their value?
     
  7. clayirving

    clayirving Supporter**

    I paid $12.50 for them because they were unique and I didn't have an example in my collection.
     
  8. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    That's very reasonable. I would have guessed much higher. $35 or more.
     
  9. AgCuAu

    AgCuAu Member

    oh no I meant I found 2 notes whose middle 4 numbers each match the other's, only that their respective first and last numbers differ from each other. would that warrant any increase in premiums if bought together?

    @clayirving like the number, I doubt i'll ever find such a combo in a lifetime!
     
  10. funkee

    funkee Tender, Legal

    As far as value, ladders come first. There's only 2 true ladder notes 12345678 and 87654321 for every block. There are 9 solids for every block: 11111111, 22222222, ... 99999999. The 9's are more valuable because modern notes with solid 9s are from sheets.

    There are pseudo-ladders like 23456789 and 98765432 - not worth as much.

    Radars that have leading and ending zeroes are more valuable than radars with zeroes in the middle.

    Unfortunately a radar with a digit off is not a radar. They could have some value if they are mirror radars like Clay posted, but not as much as you might think.
     
  11. clayirving

    clayirving Supporter**

    Here is a ladder note. :)

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  12. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    Fancy serial numbers are not my thing but I do not think that any of you who responded understand the numbers on the OPs notes. He has two radar notes. The difference is in the first and last numbers so the middle numbers are the same. As an example, 12355321 and 22355322. He is asking whether there is any premium for the pair because they are "sequential" in that the first and last numbers are in sequence and the middle numbers are the same. It also appears that he has non-US notes since he references six digit numbers. As usual, pictures would be helpful.
     
  13. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    If U.S. notes, then the answer is no. In your example, his second serial number would need to be 12355322 in order to be truly sequential.
     
  14. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    Thanks for clarifying what sequential means. Note the quotes around that word in my previous post used because the term is not meant literally. Sequential notes could not possibly both be radars.
     
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