SGS/Abon grading - Have some fun!!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Moen1305, Jan 10, 2007.

  1. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Mysticism and Tyrants

    I recently bought five SGS slabbed MS70 Roosevelts from abon. Why you ask? Because I wanted to get some uncirculated dimes for my collection and they were selling a set that included a 95-D, 96-D, 97-D, 98-D, and a 99-D that I knew I could get for about 5 bucks anyway and I could just rip the slabs open and put the coins in my book. Their slabs do make nice mailing packages after all.

    Here's the fun part. The feedback I left was,"Nice coins but MS70, I don't think so! Reform your grading practices!" That alone was worth the 5 bucks.
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Moen:
    Did they give you feedback first? If not, be prepared.
     
  4. run_run_run

    run_run_run New Member

    I have thought about doing it to get cheap modern stuff, but I just don't want to support them.
     
  5. Midas

    Midas Coin Hoarder

    Moen...come on! You are way smarter than that by putting money in SGS/Aboncom's pockets (now this loose change is going to be slabbed in MS70 SGS housing and hence the cycle repeats its ugly self)

    And if you left that feedback, be prepared...they will go after you in a heart beat.

    Now...I would love to see this feedback:

    "SGS is owned by Aboncom...buyer beware. They "grade" their own coins and package them in plastic slabs with MS70 labels."
     
  6. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Mysticism and Tyrants

    LOL Fortunately, I used paypal so my pocket change won't end up as their next sale items.

    I left a neutral feedback for them so they may not object too much. Hey, if they want to play the game of using the MS70 grade, they might as well live with the consequences.
     
  7. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Mysticism and Tyrants

    The coins are worth less than a buck each even as MS65. The way I look at it is that they used some expensive mailing packages and I turned down the UPS shipping and had it sent USPS to save more money.
     
  8. umtrr-author

    umtrr-author Thalia and Kieran's Dad

    I must confess that I had thought about buying some of their MS-999 stuff too but the bidding kept going over face value :rolleyes: :whistle:
     
  9. SapperNurse

    SapperNurse DOD enhanced

    What would happen if everyone here in CT bought from the Crooks and left the negative feedback they so rightly deserve. I dont think most of us would suffer too much from one negative feedback. Isnt there some percentage of positive feedback they need to maintain?
     
  10. CamaroDMD

    CamaroDMD [Insert Clever Title]

    I was looking through their feedback and I found yours, I personally wouldn't buy from them just because I don't want to support them...but at least you didn't leave positive feedback (that was probably fun).

    Of course, it looks like you got neutral feedback too. "Nice Ebayer but needs glasses or seeing eye dog. Reform your grading practices!." Bunch of crooks.
     
  11. airedale

    airedale New Member

    Bet they made your nose bleed on shipping. They are so bad! Probably many ( of us ) have fallen for their irresistible offers at one time or the other.
     
  12. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Mysticism and Tyrants

    Their default shipper is UPS but I asked them to use USPS and paid less. You can request this as per there shipping instructions but it isn't easy to figure out how to get them to give you the USPS rate. You have to email them and ask for an invoice with the postal rate that amounts to a discount off of the UPS amount.
     
  13. samjimmy

    samjimmy New Member

    I don't know what Moen's account is, but is this actually what was left for him? It always amazes me how *rude* some "professional" sellers are. You can (if you don't know) look at the "feedback left for others" and it's a real eye opener in some cases. Often you can catch some really inbalanced individuals and save yourself from supporting those types of people (if you check *before you bid*).
     
  14. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Mysticism and Tyrants

    I've seen people leave rebuttals to their feedback from the sells but I'm not sure how to do that. Any idea?
     
  15. samjimmy

    samjimmy New Member

  16. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Mysticism and Tyrants

  17. badger1602

    badger1602 New Member

    Try www.toolhaus.org , they have a little program you can download call ebay negs. It allows you to right click on any sellers name and display a new web page showing all the comments of everybody who lefta negative or neutral.
     
  18. samjimmy

    samjimmy New Member

    Yeah, I actually wasn't asking a question (but that link is handy to post for others, even if it's unrelated). What I was talking about is the feedback a seller leaves for others. It's on their (the seller's) feedback page, under the green/red ratings chart "Left for Others" tab. that's the one that gives some interesting insight.
     
  19. umtrr-author

    umtrr-author Thalia and Kieran's Dad

    You're right on, SamJimmy. If nothing else, the "left for others" can be interesting entertainment, but when I am unsure of a seller's reputation, I check:

    - To see if seller has even left any feedback. There are still the occassional ones who leave very little.
    - To see what the tone of the feedback is, especially when they've received a negative. "Bidder blocked, buyer an idiot, thanks, toodles!" is not want I want to see. I don't dismiss a seller out of hand if they've had a negative, especially an old, isolated one that was connected with what looks like a genuine misunderstanding-- which does happen.

    Since my activity on that Internet Auction Community is basically "window shopping" these days, I suppose it's a moot point. My selling has also moved off that venue (for items other than coins). I wonder how many other people have made the same decisions.
     
  20. samjimmy

    samjimmy New Member

    Well I will say that for every 1 moron on the auction site, there's probably 5,000 people who are on the level and who just sell what they have and that's it. I have been taken *once* out of I don't know how many auctions and it was for $19. We tend to focus on the fraudsters, the fakers and the scammers because it's so irritating, but I feel they really are the few bad apples in the orchard.
     
  21. Moen1305

    Moen1305 Mysticism and Tyrants

    You're absolutely right. I have dealt with some extremely nice and honest people on ebay. It's just that the whole concept of ebay depends on the integrity of sellers and buys so it is extra irritating when you run into a shyster.

    I guess the reason we elaborate on the bad ebay members is primarily to alert other forum members that they are out there. Plain and simple. :thumb:
     
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