1899 10 cent Canada - EF or AU >??

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by ashikunn, Dec 1, 2013.

  1. ashikunn

    ashikunn Active Member

    Hey guys. I am just wondering if anyone has an opinion on this...
    I can't decide if this coin would be XF or AU.

    I know it couldn't pass as MS but I was hoping for Almost circulated. Let me know what you think ! ( I just purchased the coin off of ebay and these are the only pictures I have)

    I also suspect that this coin might have an error on the "C" in "CENT." To me - it looks like the "C" might have some doubling within the arc of the letter. I looked it up and found another 1899 10 cent coin with the double "C" error and it seems like this one could have it too. Not 100% sure though!

    1899 10 cent 2.JPG 1899 10 cent.JPG

    1899 10 cent 2.JPG 1899 10 cent.JPG
     
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  3. Sean the Coin Collector

    Sean the Coin Collector Active Member

    Sorry to always be the bearer of bad news but no way this coin get AU maybe if your lucky ef40 but i am thinking this coin will get more in the range of vf30 sorry to say !
     
  4. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I would call it VF-25, I couldn't speak to any variety though.
     
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  5. jj00

    jj00 Well-Known Member

    Nice small 99 example ashikunn, I'd put it around VF30 too; think you may be right about the C in Cent
     
  6. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    XF
     
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  7. ashikunn

    ashikunn Active Member

    Great ! Thanks for the input.
     
  8. ashikunn

    ashikunn Active Member

    Yeah ahha...you just like to do that to me, huh ?
    I really still have a lot to learn about grading I guess. I can't understand why this would be VF, despite most replies agreeing with you. I see XF for sure and I honestly didn't think AU but I was just hoping that there was some possibility - guess not!
     
  9. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    XF coins will show a decent amount of wear only on the higher points where a VF coin will show some wear over most of the devices of the coin. It's a subtle difference, but one that will become obvious as you look at tons of coins. Dealers can usually grade pretty well because they examine dozens if not hundreds of coins per day. It's a bit different for collectors though, we just don't see or examine that many coins. A tip that my grandfather taught me when I was about five was to grade every coin that you get in your change. By doing this, you really get a feel of how wear occurs. For the past thirty years or so I have done this, and it has served me pretty well. It just takes a bit of time.
     
  10. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Canadian grading standards are more strict than most others. Same goes for Australian coin grading.
     
  11. ashikunn

    ashikunn Active Member

    Yeah that's a good idea. I actually do try to do that as much as possible with my change. I'm referring to my book "A guide book of Canadian Coins and tokens" and it's really not really informative. Using that guide is how I thought that this coin should be XF.

    Oh I have one question though: I had thought that the only thing that really mattered was the Bust of the coin and the surrounding did not really matter (for anything below MS coins). Is that not true ? Does it matter if there are nicks and scratches surrounding the queen?
     
  12. SPP Ottawa

    SPP Ottawa Numismatist

    EF-40 by Canadian Standards
     
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  13. ashikunn

    ashikunn Active Member

    Yeah I have heard that too...that's why I am nervous to send any coins into ICCS LOL
     
  14. ashikunn

    ashikunn Active Member

    Yeah ! I guess I still have a shot at EF!
     
  15. ashikunn

    ashikunn Active Member

    I know the picture is pretty bad - but do you have any comment about the double "C" I mentioned ??
     
  16. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    I should mention that I grade based on ANA standards which would certainly consider all of the coin as a basis for grading. If a Canadian comany uses different standards, I couldn't say, but I have never noticed any real difference with their grades and I've collected Canadian large cents for years using several different grading services.
     
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