Question about face value

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Grey184, Nov 27, 2013.

  1. Grey184

    Grey184 Member

    Do U.S. coins maintain face value forever?

    This is a "just curious" question.

    Do all coins ever minted by the U.S. maintain legal tender status?

    I tried internet searches, and the search engine here. Forgive me if this has been asked before. I'll read the correct thread if someone can guide me to it.
     
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  3. Victor

    Victor Coin Collector

    In general, yes.
     
  4. Amanda Varner

    Amanda Varner Well-Known Member

    With only one brief exception (the trade dollar, which was reinstated), everything every issued by the United States is still legal tender.
     
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  5. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Amanda Varner has given you the correct answer.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The Mint Act of 1965 is the law that makes all US coins legal tender.
     
  7. kaparthy

    kaparthy Well-Known Member

    You read stories (especially on coin boards) about clerks puzzled by Kennedy halves or Eisenhower dollars. When I was at Coin World, Bill Gibbs had a suggestion to send me and a photographer out to local stores with an array of old coins - half cents, large cents, 20 cent, 3 cent, as well as Classic Era and 19th century. He never got the budget for the project, but you can imagine how it would go.

    Also, not coins, but regarding US paper, is it not true that (1) the $100,000 was used only between banks and never circulated; and (2) Gold Notes were all demonetized in 1933.

    What about Fractional Currency?

    US Code 31 Section 5103 says that all United States coins and currency - including Federal Reserve Notes - are legal tender.

    §5103. Legal tender
    United States coins and currency (including Federal reserve notes and circulating notes of Federal reserve banks and national banks) are legal tenderfor all debts, public charges, taxes, and dues. Foreign gold or silver coins are not legal tender for debts.
    (The Library of Congress THOMAS online links to the House of Representatives presentation here.) But I believe that this is incomplete. The only reference to "fractional currency"is under Counterfeiting.
     
  8. fiddlehead

    fiddlehead Well-Known Member

    So Starbucks will still take two of your 1889 CC Morgan Dollars to pay for a cup of coffee- right?
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Almost. The half cents and large cents were not legal tender when they were first issued, nor were flying eagle cents or the copper nickel indian head cents. One cent coins did not gain legal tender status (and even then only limited legal tender status) until 1864. The half cent did not receive legal tender status until 1933 (This was also when the Trade dollar had it's legal tender status restored.) As doug pointed out all the coins had their legal tender status reaffirmed by the coinage act of 1965.
     
  10. kaparthy

    kaparthy Well-Known Member

    Coinage Act of March 3, 1851: Authorized the 3-cent (0.750 fine silver) with legal tender status up to 30 cents. ["Three Cents for Your Thoughts" by Dennis Rocklein; Glendale Coin Club: http://www.glencoin.com/threecen.htm]
    The article above by Alan Herbert goes into a lot of detail on the changes in legal tender status of coins, including both minors and minor silvers. The Coinage Act of June 8, 1879, set the legal tender limit of minor silver coins at $10. "Minor silver" means anything less than a dollar, which is the "standard silver" coin.
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not necessarily. Just because a coin or a dollar bill in any denomination is indeed legal tender, that does not mean that anybody is required by law to accept it as payment. Anybody can refuse to accept any coin or bill that they don't want to accept.
     
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  12. Grey184

    Grey184 Member

    I wish someone would pay for stuff at my LEO supply shop with obscure coinage.
     
  13. fiddlehead

    fiddlehead Well-Known Member

    :D
     
  14. superc

    superc Active Member

    Actually, today's Starbuck employee (just like some 7-11 clerks I know) would have no idea what a Morgan is, and have to ask an old person, possibly a customer, what is this?
     
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