1981 Quarter Rim-restricted Design Duplication?

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  1. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    I just found this in my pocket changed and decided to take a look.
    is this Rim-restricted Design Duplication?
     

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  3. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Looks more like a product of die wear IMO.
     
  4. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    on the rim? its hard to take pics of these silverish coins.
     
  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    "Rim-restricted Design Duplication?"

    What the heck does that mean?
     
  6. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    That is different.
     
  8. tgaw

    tgaw Member

    I think wear
     
  9. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member


    I agree
     
  10. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    on the rim? I can see under the rim I never heard of wear on the rim.
    if You have a link that shows me wear on the rim I would love to check it out.
     
  11. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    Definition: Rim-restricted design duplication: This rare form of doubling has to date only been detected on Presidential dollars (Washington to Madison), several 1994 cents, and a 2004 cent. It always occurs on the face struck by the hammer die. After reaching the lowest point of its downstroke, the hammer die bounces up, shifts to one side, and lands lightly on the design rim, leaving a set of raised design elements. It is also sometimes referred to as “one-sided, rim-restricted design duplication”.

    http://error-ref.com/Rim-restricted_Design_Duplication.html

    that means the die would have had to bounce in order for this to be on the rim. so
    it cant be wear. also if it were wear it wouldnt be a space between the letters on the rim and
    the normal letters. after reading this link I really think I found the answer to my question.


    Thanks for the input.
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2013
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  12. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    no, and not PMD
     
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  13. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    It looks like a peculiar form of die wear to me. But I can see why you'd mistake it for RRDD. However, if it was RRDD, the letters would be most complete at one point along the rim and get progressively less complete as you travel along the rim in both directions. Here it appears that the "extra letters" show a pretty uniform level of completeness. Also, the letters are not as clear as you'd expect in a case of RRDD. Still it might be worth writing up for Coin World to show the difference. Contact me if you want to go that route.
     
  14. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Cool find Tommy. I'd love to have a coin that made a Coin World article!
     
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  15. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member


    I would love that what do I have to send You?
     
  16. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    I sent you my e-mail address via "conversations". I supppose that's what they use for privagte messaging here?

    By the way, I've seen this effect on other quarters, but not as well-developed.
     
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  17. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Mike could this possibly be from a abraided die ?
     
  18. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    It's not a manifestation of die abrasion. Intentional die abrasion is never directed at the die's rim gutter.
     
  19. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Thanks Mike , I have found a few coins like the one in this thread but never kept any of them.
     
  20. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

  21. tommy cent

    tommy cent Active Member

    You had a few of these and thought nothing of it? and tossed them back?
     
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