Can you help me with these Seljuq coins ?

Dear Masters,
I bought these two Seljuq coins .I know their era but not exact year and the city they were minted although it is supposed to be written on them.It will be great help to me .

 

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Beautiful coins, numizmatikci ...

... but sadly, although I have an example myself, I too have zero-idea how to read the coin's clues!! (I merely have the seller's info)

=> great site, TIF!!

 

those are cool NM, and that's a nice link TIF.

some of the early ones that still have images of kings and animals are very attractive.

 

Seljuqs of Rum, Kaykhusraw II

Silver Dirham
Konya Mint
1241-1242 A.D. (AH639)
Diameter: 23 mm
Weight: 2.9 grams
Obverse: Sun and Lion
Reverse: who knows??!!

 

yeah...like that one! guess that isn't all that early really....but still awesome.

 

Maybe this could be helpful to read seljuq coins.

 

very interesting (looks like you might be on the correct track?)

... good sleuthing!!

 

I am try to get the correct info.But my coins are the one on the photo are different arrangement.So it didnt help so much

 

Dear Friends,
Finally I was able to determine the dates and mints of the coins;
First one is 619 AH,Alaaddin Keykubad Sivas Mint Dirham
Second one is 654 AH Three Brothers, Sivas Mint Dirham

 

numizmatikca => awesome effort!! (congrats ... great detective work!!)

 

a man from austria I met on facebook is a great master on islamic coins