Please help ID this coin; Chinese and Arabic?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Dougmeister, Nov 13, 2013.

  1. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    No idea what this coin is. Can anyone here help me out?

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  3. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    If your coin is real, it dates from 1736 and was issued in the first year of Hongli, the
    Abkai Wehiyehe, or Qiánlóng, emperor of the Qing Dynasty. The reverse side is not Arabic, but rather is a kind of mintmark. Coins of that type also circulated widely in Japan and today are often sold by Japanese dealers in bulk lots.

    Here are lots of Google images of coins similar to yours:

    http://www.google.co.jp/search?q=乾隆通宝&client=safari&rls=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=r3GDUqWRIcvkkgXSh4GQDQ&ved=0CDwQsAQ&biw=1580&bih=952#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=OQS9uc7itdj-hM:;z8uS1A3UOsdrDM;http%3A%2F%2Fimage.rakuten.co.jp%2Fkobijutu%2Fcabinet%2F01349571%2F02525490%2Fimg58841538.jpg;http%3A%2F%2Fitem.rakuten.co.jp%2Fkobijutu%2F100033926%2F;700;465
     
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  4. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Thanks. So I was wrong on both languages? Lol. Not a good start to my day ;-)

    So it's not worth anything then?
     
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  5. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    The coin was actually issued in China, but massive amounts ended up in Japan. I don't know about that particular Mint (they were apparently made at 14 Chinese mints), and I can't pinpoint it with the resources I have, but in Japan all mints for that type of coin are apparently considered to be relatively common. My Japanese coin values book lists a retail price of around 200 yen, or $2, for the most common ones, although dealers at shows will often sell them in bulk lots of 10 or so for around $10.
     
  6. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Ok. The kids will get a kick out of it then... Our first 18th century coin!

    Even if it's fake ;-)
     
  7. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    It looks like I was wrong about the mintmark thing-- it's an indication of where the coin was minted, but apparently it's actually the issuing authority written in Manchu script.
     
  8. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Very cool. Thank you!

    It is one thing to show a foreign coin to kids. It is entirely different to be able to give them some of the history! They will appreciate it *so* much more this way.
     
  9. manymore

    manymore Chinese Charms

    Unfortunately, it is a modern fake.

    These fake coins are made in very large quantities as souvenirs and for fengshui purposes.

    This Chinese website will sell you a bag of 30 of these coins for less than one dollar and I'm sure you can find them even cheaper.

    Actually, authentic coins are actually quite plentiful and inexpensive. Unlike the fake coins, authentic coins were cast and not struck.

    As an example, this is an authentic qian long tong bao (乾隆通寶) coin although it was cast at a different mint (Board of Works instead of Board of Revenue).

    Gary
     
  10. Dougmeister

    Dougmeister Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Gary.

    Could you direct me to a legitimate place where I might find some inexpensive (but real) coins of this type? I actually prefer the one from the Board of Works.
     
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