2007-P LMC with Extras

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  1. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    2007 I pulled this from a Bu bank roll.I marked the slip and forgot I had it til last night.It has 3-4 raised Columns in the Memorial 2007-P LMC Odd Rev CU 2.JPG 2007-P LMC   Odd Rev Rev CU.JPG 2007-P LMC  Odd Rev CU 1 area.JPG 2007-P LMC  Odd Rev -Obv.JPG 2007-P LMC   Odd Rev- Rev.JPG steps 2007-P LMC   Odd Rev Rev CU.JPG 2007-P LMC  Odd Rev CU 1 area.JPG 2007-P LMC  Odd Rev -Obv.JPG 2007-P LMC   Odd Rev- Rev.JPG
     
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  3. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    are you sure its not just the sun going down, and making a shadow on the stairs, lol nice find jello :p [/quote]
     
  4. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

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    No shadows Richard. All three and maybe a four are raised. I will open the slip and post it without slip.asap .
     
  5. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    If those are raised, I am extremely interested in this thread. Beautiful find Jello! I want one of those. The oddness is my kind of thing.
     
  6. playpossum0985

    playpossum0985 Global Cooling Protester

    Looks like glue to me!:D


    JK>>>Sorry, couldn't help myself!!! Cool find!!!
     
  7. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    That too was my first though .bu rolls are hard to find glued.
    But not big thing sayin that.
     
  8. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    Given the uniform damage to the columns that is at the same angle as the indentions on the steps it looks the memorial from another cent was pressed into this one, thus damaging it.
     
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  9. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    this was my opinion but he says this is raised on the coin. I don't see how this could be raised but the mint can do some weird things. to be honest it looks to be like you said. something like this could have happened while in the coin roll if someone dropped the roll if it is indented in . now I see what you are saying after another look , the colums have dents about halfway up on them and going at a slant from one to the other.
     
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  10. jallengomez

    jallengomez Cessna 152 Jockey

    I didn't even notice that Jello said they were raised. That would be an oddball. They look like depressions in the steps to me.
     
  11. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    No shadows Richard. All three and maybe a four are raised. I will open the slip and post it without slip.asap .[/quote]
    I know, I just having fun, thats all, like I said, nice find
     
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  13. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Displaced metal (see arrow in pic), depressions in the columns and damage on the rims makes me think it's PMD.
    2007-P LMC Odd Rev W-out Sp.JPG
     
  14. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    If PMD and I am not saying your wrong .
    Would there not be more damage on the outer fields ??
     
  15. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    If it's two coins of the same design and close to the same orientation the raised devices would never touch the fields.
     
  16. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    A, look, a coin error expert, whats the name of your company, sir
     
  17. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    I don't believe I've, at anytime, claimed to be an error expert.
    Given that , if you have something to contribute regarding the coin in question I'm more than willing to hear it. If I'm wrong on something I want to hear it. I'm always looking to further my education.
    Tell me where I'm wrong or kindly keep the snide comments to yourself.
     
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  18. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    I can't say yet just what this is but it is not Post Mint damage. What is tough is getting an image of an uncirculated coin that can be easily analyzed. The glare and luster make it hard to see the details 100% clearly.

    What is being pointed out as displaced metal looks more to me like the bottom of the Memorial Building as the orientation is the same as that of the extra columns.

    Since the extra details are raised, they had to be impressed into the effected die. I am not saying that this is the case with this coin but there is a case of cents having had a hubbing started , then stopped, then re-initiated again in a different orientation. The coin I am thinking of has Lincoln, inside the Memorial building showing doubling oriented 180 degrees apart. So there is an upside down Lincoln below a right side up Lincoln. Both images of Lincoln are raised.

    Still tough to tell by the images but this coin is definitely an interesting find!

    Mike Diamond needs to see this one.
     
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  19. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    sure, its called a phenomenon, just like this one A032 - 20131002_075523 (2).jpg
     
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  20. foundinrolls

    foundinrolls Roll Searching Enthusiast

    Hi Rick,

    What he has is relatively strong details on the coin that was caused by relatively strong details being engraved into the die somehow.

    The quarter shown is the result of severe die wear. The designs transfer from one die to another, on the quarter, as a result of the metal movement within the dies causing a "ghost" impression of the obverse on the reverse die and a "ghost" image of the reverse on the obverse die.

    Two completely different reasons.
     
  21. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Sound like a good Bill
     
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