05' D Oregon quarter shattered die???

A shattered die would produce raised anomalies, as the die would chip, crack, and break. That would leave incuse elements on the die, which when transferred to the coin, would be raised. The sole fact that many of these anomalies are infuse makes me think it is not a shattered die, and likely not an error of any sort. It looks like a substance that dried on the coin. Dip the coin in acetone and report back to us...

 

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I see. Then it's not glue. Strike-through would be my guess.

 

It's not glue. I'll put big $$$ on it. That was the first thing I thought too, but coin is not coated with anything.

 

Then what is peeling off? I'm talking about the area at the treetop, not the ding.

 

The dent at 3:00 looks like a piece of a spring or something else was definatly struck between the die and planchet when it was struck, in my last set of pics you can see fracture lines coming out from the corners of the hole. Also behind the tree, in what looks like a mountain in the skyline, the edge is raised quite a bit, very pronounced.

 

Hmmm...what do you think of the anomaly at 1-2 o'clock, Jody? I'm not sure what to make of it...

 

Nothing peeling anywhere. You are seeing cracks and layers from early stage catostrophic die decomposition. It probably didn't last much longer after this was struck.

 

Probably Northern Lights reflecting off the Cratered Lake!

I think defective planchette or PMD.

 

Acetone, laquer thinner, alcohol.... no difference except for the grease spot that was in the tall tree is gone now. Im telling you there's nothing on it man.

 

I honestly don't know. In the first images, I thought these areas were on the surface of the coin, but if they are incuse I'm still thinking struck through, especially due to the lack of damage to any of the devices and the smoothness of the edges of the areas in question.

 

One thing I can tell you for certain is that if the areas are incuse, then this has nothing to do with failure of the die. Die cracks and/or breaks will present as raised areas on the surface of the coin.

 

Not if the die didn't disintegrate at this time. Imagine if the first layers of the face cracked, then partialy shifted on the die face, but didn't release at this point.

Hardened steel die, with a soft metal planchet, then add a piece of hardened steel debris and slam it all together with 30,000 pounds of force. The soft metal becomes basicly a mold, correct? The hole at 3:00 sure looks like a piece of a spring, but it only went half way into the planchet, the other half had to go somewhere. With the planchet being encased when struck, it held everything together, at least for this strike.

 

No. It's not like that at all. This is what a retained interior die break looks like-

http://error-ref.com/retained-interior-die-break.html

I've seen hundreds of them.

 

It's not a broken die...you would see extreme die cracks, die breaks, cuds, etc. if you think it is a broken die, then perhaps send it into ANACS. What I see from the images is likely a struck-through error (and not a spring or anything like that...it bears no resemblance to a spring or a part of the die). Again...a shattered die would produce RAISED anomalies...the anomalies you are pointing to on your coin all appear incuse.

 

Again...

There are numerous examples of shattered dies on the site below. While of a different composition, type, and era, the basics are same. Also, and just for future reference, acetone often takes time to work.

http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/major_25_table2.htm

If you are sure there is nothing on it, and after closely examining how light plays off the coin in the last photo you posted, I believe jallengomez is correct in that it is struck-through.

 

Ok I'm totaly here for your guy's and gals professional opinion's. If it was struck through wouldn't that affect the the fine details as well as the fields? A planchet error would also give some kind of anomily to the details would it not?

 

A thin struck-through layer looks more radical on the fields than it does the devices. An area such as the one at 3 o'clock would certainly effect the devices. The thinner areas not so much though.

 

How about this, retained interior die break?
http://error-ref.com/retained-interior-die-breaks--freestanding-.html

 

I agree with the contingent that argues that the imperfections represent dried glue.

 

Die breaks, again, are RAISED. Your anomalies, as you have said, are INCUSE.