1795 Draped Bust Dollar (real or fake)

1795 Bust Silver Dollar Real or Fake

Weighs 26.7 grams

 

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Is there a question there coinman? Are you asking if yours is fake?

 

He started two threads (since merged into one thread) with the exact same photos. Take your pick as to where to try to help him.

http://www.cointalk.com/t206949/

 

Please guide me regarding the authenticity of my 1795 bust dollar coin. Any help is much appreciated.

 

How many threads do you plan on hijacking with this coin, which is not yours and appears in CoinFacts with a PCGS MS65 grade?

If yours, could we see a photo of the slab with insert?

This particular coins sold for $373,750 at a Jan. 2007 Heritage auction. I'd say it was authentic.

 

I am thinking pictures of his are now attached to the first post, which certainly looks fake.

 

Well it is either one of the thousands of fakes of this piece, or it is the one genuine piece that was used to create the hub that was used to created the tens of thousands of fake bust dollars dated from 1795 to 1804. In other words it shows features that appear on a series of tens of thousands of Chinese fakes.

About eight years ago the chinese counterfeiters got a genuine 1795 dollar that had some distinctive contact marks and they used it to create an undated hub. They then used that hub to create a LOT of undated dies that they punched dates from 1795 to 1804 into and used those dies to make fake bust dollars. But ALL of those fake dollars have the same distinctive contact marks. This coin has those marks so it is almost certainly a fake.

 

I have a 1795 draped bust off-centered dollar. It weighs 23 grams is it a fake? A magnet does not stick to it

 

Under weight badly. Unless holed and extremely worn I’m saying fake even without pics. 27g is correct weight and they were careful about that even then. Why adjustment marks on overweight coins

 

It may have been the angle of the photo, but the first coin looked fake from four pages of posts before. I don't have a 1795 off-center Bust Dollar. I'd love to have one, but have not found the right one yet.

Here is a nice example of the centered bust variety. NGC graded it AU-53.

 

Hard to believe I have a coin you don’t or have a better one of. Not my best coin but it’s original and unmesssed with thoughvthec spots bother me

 

The piece you have is the centered Bust variety.

 

My example is an Off-Center Bust.

 

interesting 11 year old thread.

Nice to see some missing names, like Bonedigger

 

That’s right. I just spaced on that.

 

Nice dollars! I'm in the market for one but think vf is about the highest grade that fits my budget.

 

For a while I thought HandsomeToad had come back....

Don't know if anybody here remembers him ?
He was a really helpful guy and quite knowledgeable.

 

Yes, the Toad was really into Ct copper varieties, as I recall. He was also very active in the CoinForgery eBay group before it went off the rails.

 

Sorry but it is fake. Vampire hub. You also say the neodysium magnet slides right off. It shouldn't it should be a slow slide off. It also has a reeded edge, genuine coins have a lettered edge.