Jefferson's - will these make the full step grade at PCGS?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by gbroke, Oct 12, 2013.

  1. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    It was a great day to be a Jefferson collector.....I hope. :)

    1953 P
    This is near the top of the list for rare full steps.
    I need this to be a 64 or higher, and that only matters if it's FS.

    *PCGS gives the FS designation to nickels with 5 steps or more.*

    PCGS Population:
    MS 64 FS - 7
    MS 65 FS - 7
    MS 66 FS - 2
    MS 67 FS - 0

    What do you think?

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    1947 S
    This one takes a big jump in value when it hits 66 and only in FS
    How do you think this guy would do?

    PCGS Population:
    MS 64 FS - 78
    MS 65 FS - 198
    MS 66 FS - 47
    MS 67 FS - 1

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  3. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    No and Possible
     
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  4. petro89

    petro89 Member

    Yeah, as far as FS, I'm gonna say no way on the '53 and probably not on the 47s. I do think the former is a 65-66, and the latter is a smooth and easy 66 though, and a gorgeous one at that!
     
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  5. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    No way the 53-P gets full steps, too many little nicks. The 47-S on the other hand has a good shot. It has a real shot at full steps if the photo is accurate. Without the toning, I think it is an MS65 all day, but the eye appeal of that coin might push it into MS66 territory. I think the key will be the luster, is it premium gem luster on both obverse & reverse?
     
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  6. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    No doubt about it.
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  7. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Greg,

    That is very cool but at the risk of sounding like Doug, I am not going to judge luster from photos. I will however take your word that the luster is worthy of a premium gem grade. Are you gonna submit it?

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  8. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Yeah Paul, I am submitting 20 coins. I'm hoping half of them will be Jeffs if I can find the right candidates. These are some options.

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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Regarding the FS, I don't think either coin qualifies.
     
  10. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Not a Jefferson collector, so I can't honestly say about the full steps--as regards high grade gem--definitely, and in terms of eye appeal, definitely. If they were going to NGC, both are star material. You know how I feel about the colors.
     
  11. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I would submit the ones selected above, I think they are the ones with the best chance at MS67.
     
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  12. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    I agree. :)
     
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  13. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I was hoping you would give your opinion. I will send these in, including the 68 D.

    How about this one?
    Can I squeeze a 65 FS out of it?
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  14. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Are these good candidates as well?

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  15. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator


    This is quite possibly how ALL coin pictures / gifs should be done! I think people would get a much better idea at what a coin really looks like in-hand as the coin is moved around in the light. Very cool, dude.
     
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  16. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Thanks gp! Its mesmerizing isn't it?
     
  17. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    The 38-D is nice but I am afraid that the carbon spotting on the reverse will prevent it from an MS67 grade and the 38-D is very common in high grade so I don't think an MS66 would be worth the grading fees. The 39-D would grade MS65 based on those photos. But if you are looking for coins to complete a submission, I think they would be good coins to gamble on.
     
  18. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Good luck on the submissions Greg and keep us posted on what grades they come back as.
     
  19. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Only if they're good. :)

    Sent from phone. Ignore any spellang errars.
     
  20. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Once again, not a Jeff collector, so I am not the authority on this series by any means. To me they look like MS 65-66 coins, with the eye appeal in the toning. The other two look more sharply struck, but that is just me--I really don't know the series.
     
  21. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    I don't think your coins will receive the FS designation, but the 83-D seems to be pretty close (just my opinion, not being an expert though). Apparently it really depends on the grading service if a 'borderline FS' coin will get the designation or not. I have recently bought a couple of FS-Jeffersons, graded by different TPGs, you can be sure I'll compare them when they arrive ;-)
     
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